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by sjfcontrol
Sat Feb 05, 2011 2:29 pm
Forum: Other States
Topic: .
Replies: 64
Views: 11500

Re: Utah may beat Burnam to the punch

baldeagle wrote:
Heartland Patriot wrote:Well, I guess that Texas code needs to be "fixed" so that a person who hasn't been found guilty of a crime isn't treated as such...I understand that there are a lot of varying situations out there, but a lot of them put a generally law-abiding person in a bind over some possibly minor issues...I will certainly "stay tuned" to this station for further information...
I'm not picking on you. Your post was just easy to use as a starting point.

I don't understand what people are saying about being arrested. Texas Government Code 411.172 (4) reads "(4) is not charged with the commission of a Class A or Class B misdemeanor or an offense under Section 42.01, Penal Code, or of a felony under an information or indictment;" Is that what is being referred to? Because this doesn't refer to being arrested. It refers to being charged with the commission of a crime. So is the complaint that you should still be able to obtain a CHL even if you are charged with a crime but the charge has not yet been adjudicated?

If that's the case, I would have to respectfully disagree. If someone has been charged with a crime, the verdict of guilty which would preclude receiving a CHL, then I think the charges should be cleared first, before the person becomes eligible to obtain a TX CHL. If the state issued the CHL and then the person was later found guilty, they would have to give up the CHL anyway. It makes no sense, then, to issue the CHL before the issue is resolved, in my opinion.
Be aware that the "class B misdemeanor" that is charged could be for something as innocent as flipping off a driver, or swearing in public. These are Disorderly conduct charges, and can take YEARS to resolve thru the court system. They are also OFTEN used by people to "punish" someone else who hasn't actually committed ANY crime. Don't like your neighbor? Accuse him of "mooning" you. In the meantime, no CHL for you. In fact, if you move around a lot, you can even have your CHL revoked by forgetting to inform DPS of you new address within 30 days, three times.

And besides, why NOT issue the license in the meantime? You haven't been convicted of anything.
by sjfcontrol
Tue Feb 01, 2011 7:47 pm
Forum: Other States
Topic: .
Replies: 64
Views: 11500

Re: Utah may beat Burnam to the punch

In Texas, you can't get a CHL if you've even been CHARGED with a crime (Prior to being adjudicated). (Guilty until proven innocent.) In Utah, you have to be convicted of the crime before they'll deny/revoke the license. Disorderly Conduct charges, which will prevent the issuance of a CHL in Texas can take YEARS to resolve.

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