Yes, I know that. My question was whether that would be acceptable to DPS.Chrispy wrote:The instructor is required to keep a copy of all CHL-100s for three years. My guess is that making a copy of their stored copy would work.sjfcontrol wrote:Umm, does that mean the instructor can just issue another CHL-100 (with the original dates), or does the student have to re-qualify? I would think the instructor would be able to reissue as long as it's still within the 2-year limit.inertiajason wrote:This is the response that I received back from the state: So there we have it.
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From: "CHLinstructors" <CHLinstructors@txdps.state.tx.us>
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 09:38:02
Subject: RE: Students CHL application terminated after 90 days?
Once an application is terminated for "no response", the fee for that application is non-refundable & forfeited and the applicant will need to submit a new application & CHL-100 along with another fee.
The applicant is notified once, by mail, of a deficiency in their application process and given 90 days to rectify the problem. It is up to the student to keep track of their time frame. If they haven't received their license within 60 days, they really should start calling or going online to check the status of their application.
Marion Stahl
Investigator II, Eligibility Evaluation Unit
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- Mon Apr 25, 2011 9:42 pm
- Forum: Instructors' Corner
- Topic: Student's Application for CHL Terminated after 90 days?
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Re: Student's Application for CHL Terminated after 90 days?
- Mon Apr 25, 2011 1:43 pm
- Forum: Instructors' Corner
- Topic: Student's Application for CHL Terminated after 90 days?
- Replies: 26
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Re: Student's Application for CHL Terminated after 90 days?
Umm, does that mean the instructor can just issue another CHL-100 (with the original dates), or does the student have to re-qualify? I would think the instructor would be able to reissue as long as it's still within the 2-year limit.inertiajason wrote:This is the response that I received back from the state: So there we have it.
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From: "CHLinstructors" <CHLinstructors@txdps.state.tx.us>
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 09:38:02
Subject: RE: Students CHL application terminated after 90 days?
Once an application is terminated for "no response", the fee for that application is non-refundable & forfeited and the applicant will need to submit a new application & CHL-100 along with another fee.
The applicant is notified once, by mail, of a deficiency in their application process and given 90 days to rectify the problem. It is up to the student to keep track of their time frame. If they haven't received their license within 60 days, they really should start calling or going online to check the status of their application.
Marion Stahl
Investigator II, Eligibility Evaluation Unit
- Sun Apr 24, 2011 8:24 am
- Forum: Instructors' Corner
- Topic: Student's Application for CHL Terminated after 90 days?
- Replies: 26
- Views: 4824
Re: Student's Application for CHL Terminated after 90 days?
I don't think the problem is so much that the requirements would be different (if specified by the state), but that there would be certain Sheriffs who do not believe that "civilians" should be allowed to carry concealed weapons, and therefore subvert the system. Perhaps LONG waits for approvals. Lost applications, etc. And currently there are less than 2% of the population that have CHLs, so an otherwise popular Sheriff might figure the number of votes he'd lose due to unhappy CHL applicants would not affect his re-election. In fact, might actually help his re-election if he ran on a platform of "Protecting the public by preventing people from having concealed handguns in public areas". I think you're MUCH better off with a centralized system, even if that system is not perfect.Jumping Frog wrote:If you are saying that one sheriff applies their standards for license eligibility and another sheriff applies different standards, no that is not what I am saying. You would still have state-wide standards as set by the state legislature -- the essential point of a "shall-issue" system.texasjeep44 wrote:I you think that one department is too bureacratic to get anything done, do you really want it handled by each sheriff?
Are there going to be variations in how effective one county is versus another? Absolutely, that is the essence of local control. However, if someone does not like the way it is handled in their county, it is a lot easier to get the attention of a local elected official than it is to get the attention of some faceless bureaucrat in Austin.
I've been familiar with issuance by local sheriffs for years, and I've never heard "personal grievances" being an issue. I am not saying it is impossible, just statistically meaningless. Meanwhile, the upside in good counties is great customer service. I know other states that also have to go through criminal background checks where some counties routinely issue a license in one business day.
- Fri Apr 22, 2011 11:22 am
- Forum: Instructors' Corner
- Topic: Student's Application for CHL Terminated after 90 days?
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Re: Student's Application for CHL Terminated after 90 days?
I wonder why you're so quick to blame the student? Would seem just as likely that the letter was mis-directed, and never arrived. It also could have been a DPS problem, and the letter never actually got sent.KC5AV wrote:I hope your student can get his application reinstated, but it is a very good object lesson for future classes. The State is not in the business of holding our hands through this process. I know that the envelopes they use are pretty nondescript, so it is very likely that the notice just got overlooked, or was mistaken for mass-mailed junk.