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by sjfcontrol
Fri Jun 22, 2012 8:56 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Executive Privilege for Fast and Furious docs
Replies: 38
Views: 3605

Re: Executive Privilege for Fast and Furious docs

Q: what do you call the "Bill of Rights" after a second Obama term?







Wait for it...





A: "The Bill of Lefts"

Or, maybe, "The Bill of What's Left"
by sjfcontrol
Thu Jun 21, 2012 5:26 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Executive Privilege for Fast and Furious docs
Replies: 38
Views: 3605

Re: Executive Privilege for Fast and Furious docs

My crystal ball only averages about 50%, but it's telling me that this was not a smart move for Obama. Only time will tell.
by sjfcontrol
Thu Jun 21, 2012 3:31 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Executive Privilege for Fast and Furious docs
Replies: 38
Views: 3605

Re: Executive Privilege for Fast and Furious docs

57Coastie wrote:Just for the record, as the Executive Privilege gets battered and bruised on this forum, this is apparently the first and only time President Obama has, reluctantly, I really believe, advanced the privilege. George W. Bush exerted the privilege 6 times during his 8 years in office. Another president named George, Washington, that is, was the first to exert such a privilege had by the president to avoid publishing to the world his advisor's private advice, bound to restrain and affect that advice if not privileged.

To do their duties as they and the new president saw them, the new administration's lawyers were stuck with defending at least one of W's exertions when they entered office.

This is not intended as a comment on the whys and wherefores, rightness or wrongness, of Fast and Furious. I simply want to observe the almost unanimous bias or lack of understanding of the real issue, by the members, who I personally do not remember calling our our prior presidents to task for similar cases -- one of which led to the resignation of a president to avoid impeachment.

Jim
Just the messenger

And just for the sake of bi-partizenship, Clinton exerted the privilege 14 times in his 8 years, and was the first to lose since Nixon when the Federal judge ruled that his aids could be called to testify in the Lewinsky scandal. :thumbs2:

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