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Dave2 wrote:

sjfcontrol wrote:

Dave2 wrote:

stroo wrote:Yeah I have some problems with the part of the story that he didn't know they were tracers. That just doesn't make sense to me.

I've got a 20-round box of XM62 made by Federal, and if you just glance at the box looking caliber info, it's not all that hard to miss the "Tracer" bit. In fact, they only caught my eye at the store because, unlike every other non-bulk box on the shelf at the time, their packaging was just plain brown cardboard.

Now, they are clearly marked as tracers if you actually read the label, but I could see someone missing it if they weren't paying attention. I'd imagine you'd notice after the first shot, though. I mean I haven't fired any myself, but IIRC from TV, they're kinda glowy and stand-outish.

It's my understanding that tracer rounds take some time (distance) to get going (glowing). In a short range (25 yards?) I believe it's unlike the tracer would be noticeable. Also, if you assume a muzzle velocity of 3000ft/s, the round would take all of 0.025 (25 thousandth) seconds to traverse a 25 yd range. A mighty short time to notice anything at all.

But... but... on TV it's instant! Oh well, I guess that just goes to show how important it is to read the labels.

Incidentally, does anyone know where it's safe to shoot these things? When I got them, it was (and still is) my understanding that a fire is nearly guaranteed if the round lands before it "burns out" (and cools down). I don't even think I'd made it up to the cash register before it occurred to me that it'd take me a long time to find a place where it'd be safe to shoot them, but hey, what's $15 to legally own twenty incendiary devices?

Dave2 wrote:

stroo wrote:Yeah I have some problems with the part of the story that he didn't know they were tracers. That just doesn't make sense to me.

I've got a 20-round box of XM62 made by Federal, and if you just glance at the box looking caliber info, it's not all that hard to miss the "Tracer" bit. In fact, they only caught my eye at the store because, unlike every other non-bulk box on the shelf at the time, their packaging was just plain brown cardboard.

Now, they are clearly marked as tracers if you actually read the label, but I could see someone missing it if they weren't paying attention. I'd imagine you'd notice after the first shot, though. I mean I haven't fired any myself, but IIRC from TV, they're kinda glowy and stand-outish.

OldGrumpy wrote:

Lonest4r wrote:I took my CHL class there and purchased my first handgun from them also, hopefully this guy will be held liable for his foolish actions. I imagine that this will develop into a huge paperwork and insurance mess that may take years to sort through for both the range and those who lost guns in the fire. I'm glad that no lives were lost in the ordeal.

May turn out that over 5,000 people lost guns there Sunday when all the insurance claims are in!