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RECIT wrote:You can buy a rail for the Sig but the rifle itself is at the top end of your budget without a rail. The rail is also going to proprietary to Sig as well. AR15 rails are almost all interchangeable. There are a few that have special barrel nut but it can all be changed if need be.

Keep in mind the rail adds quite a bit of weight to the front of the rifle and can make them unbalanced. I know the big honkin rails look the coolest but do yourself a favor and get the smallest rail that will fit your needs. Heavy rifles suck!

Without a rail on top? All mine came with one. Along with a Sig holo sight mounted to it.

kalipsocs wrote:

shortysboy09 wrote:

GOP wrote:Get the SIG 556. Best gas piston 15 clone out there. And yes, you can have one for around $1400.

My recommendations, Great guns. Nothing but praises for the ones I have owned.

What about AR rails? Do they fit on this gun? I am always leary of proprietary platforms because I don't want to unduly limit my options for add-ons and accessories. Thanks guys for the input so far, all good stuff!

Same Picatinny Rails...



All these accessories can be taken off this Sig and put straight on any AR with Picatinny rails.

GOP wrote:Get the SIG 556. Best gas piston 15 clone out there. And yes, you can have one for around $1400.

My recommendations, Great guns. Nothing but praises for the ones I have owned.

jeeperbryan wrote:At that price point, you're not going to find any manufacturer (of decent quality) that will include a rail. You can switch them out pretty easily though.

I really can't say enough about the customer service at Spikes. I just read this thread today from a fellow Texan. I was pretty amazed at the length Spikes will go:

http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b ... 2&t=188347

Wow, that makes me want to give Spike's some of my business. That was truly amazing what they did. You never see things like this happen anymore, Spike's showed their true colors there.

jeeperbryan wrote:Get a Spikes Tactical!!! They are awesome and have the best customer service. Here's their entry level rifle:
http://www.spikestactical.com/z/index.p ... cts_id=387" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

You won't find a better deal as this one comes with M4 ramps, Chrome Lined, Double heatshield handguards, heavy buffer, A2 carry handle, and a Pmag all for $799.

Yep, that price is tough to beat... I would just want something with rails for attachments. I guess you could change the handguards out?

driver8 wrote:Yeah, too boring, I'm sure I didn't do mine right.

As long as it is accurate and does what it's supposed to then no problem with how you did it.

driver8 wrote:I know someone that has a Bushmaster with a chrome lined barrel and I remember it had a pretty involved break in. Seems like Bushmaster wanted him to shoot a bunch of rounds through it without cleaning.

I see, the Double star was the opposite. It was like, One shot, breakdown and clean. Repeat 5 times. Now, two shots, break down and clean. Repeat 3 times. And blah blah blah to the point of complete boredom.

driver8 wrote:One suggestion is make sure you get a flat top. Most of em are now unlike when I got mine. From what I've always been told about barrel s, all rifle barrels are chrome moly except the stainless ones. The difference is if it's chrome lined or not. Chrome lined are usually military type barrels. More durable but not as accurate. I'm not an expert, just what I've read and been told.

This may be true... I'm not really sure on this. I know the Double Star my brother owns had a certain break in procedure. It takes a couple or three hours to do.

RECIT wrote:
I think the Sig rifles are a great bargain for all the features you get. But they are not your standard AR style platform. So they operate a little different, but still a great rifle!

Right, Sort of a hybrid between the AR and the AK platform.

kalipsocs wrote:Working in the $700-$1400 range, and I would be lying if I said I am not might attracted to the Ruger 556 for many reasons. However, I don't want to jump in head first without many many second opinions. So tell me what you like people!

P.S. Optics aren't in that price, I will take care of that myself. 5.56 caliber only as well, work on other calibers later.

The Ruger is a great gun from what I have experienced when I shot one. Only downfall to it is it's a little tempermental with ammo. I don't know if it was because the owner didn't keep it as clean as it needed to be or what. But, that thing was not going to eject steel cased ammo for nothing. I shot 10 rounds of Wolf ammo through it and it need to be manually ejected every time. Also shot a few different Rock River's and a few DPMS's including one in .308 ( That was a sweet rig ). My brother owns a Double Star and it's a good gun as well. I own Sig 556's, well owned 3 now I'm down to one. It has been the best platform I have shot. I may not be as experienced with AR's as some here, but that's just how I have seen things. The Sig is a lot more low maintenance. I have shot up to 2500 rounds in a day without one hiccup from my Sig. Took it out the next day and ran another 1000 through it without cleaning and same outcome. The guys with the Rock River's were amazed at how clean the Sig was at the end of the weekend. Also the Sig has a 1 : 7 twist compared to 1 : 9 on other AR's so the Sig has a little tighter bullet twist to it. The Sig also has a Gas Adjustment knob on the front of the gas block so if you forget to clean it and the action start getting sluggish on you just turn the knob and keep firing, I have never had to turn mine but it's nice to know it's there. So, you might take a look at Sig as well...

Best of luck with your search and whatever you decide on should make you happy.

For the sake of not writing a novel for you to read I won't explain why the Sig can fire more shots without cleaning. But, if you would like the information on it I can send you a PM or email. Just think of it as the typical AR's push gases down into the bolt carrier and the on the Sig the gas chamber is separate and little to no gases go into the bolt carrier therefore less deposits to foul it up. One more thing, Try to stay away from a chrom-moly barrel if you can. Break-in on that barrel is a mother bear and if not done exactly right the rifle will never shoot right.