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AndyC1911 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 2:39 pm I just acquired a Vortex Venom to mount onto my Ruger .22 pistol - an OuterImpact plate (to replace the picatinny rail and get the sight lower) should be here later today.

Edit: Got it and installed; a lot sleeker than the Pic rail would have been:



Should make for a nice little bunny-buster.

The Annoyed Man wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 11:23 am

MadMonkey wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:41 pm

The Annoyed Man wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 11:14 am

AndyC1911 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:44 pm We've all seen inexperienced shooters try to shoot with a laser and it didn't help them

Red dots are no different and the sole advantage they might have (over traditional iron sights) is a single plane of focus.

Everything still comes down to trigger-control once the sight - in whatever form it takes - is aligned, so my opinion is allow them (and lasers and the kitchen sink if they want).

The only time I’ve ever a shot a handgun with a laser sight, I was already a fairly experienced shooter, and I gave it up. My wife’s first pistol was a S&W 642 with Crimson Trace grips that I gave her for Valentine’s Day back in 2008. For the life of me, I could NOT stop chasing that red dot all over the target. When I turned the daggum thing off and went back to using the rudimentary open sights, the problem went away completely. I’ve avoided lasers on handguns ever since.

I have yet to shoot a pistol with an RDS, but my sense is that it would be a lot more like using irons than it would be like using a laser. I could be wrong, but that’s my impression. For the record, I love a RDS on a carbine; and out to at least 50 yards, I shoot a carbine with an RDS about as well as I do with a magnified optic, and a little better with an RDS than I do with irons. So at typical handgun distances—say 25 yards and under—I don’t think an RDS-mounted pistol would be that big of a problem. Again, I could be wrong, but that’s my impression.

Both lasers and RDSs clearly show every little twitch and movement of your pistol, but for me it's much more natural to use a red dot than a laser.

Presentation is EVERYTHING though. Get that right and you won't have to search for the dot.

I have a couple of pistols with red dots and will do my best to keep purchasing and using them. I shoot far better with them and always had issues with irons.

I figure that a RDS, being in roughly the same focal plane as my iron sights, wouldn’t move around relative to my eyeball anymore than the irons do.

The Annoyed Man wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 11:14 am

AndyC1911 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:44 pm We've all seen inexperienced shooters try to shoot with a laser and it didn't help them

Red dots are no different and the sole advantage they might have (over traditional iron sights) is a single plane of focus.

Everything still comes down to trigger-control once the sight - in whatever form it takes - is aligned, so my opinion is allow them (and lasers and the kitchen sink if they want).

The only time I’ve ever a shot a handgun with a laser sight, I was already a fairly experienced shooter, and I gave it up. My wife’s first pistol was a S&W 642 with Crimson Trace grips that I gave her for Valentine’s Day back in 2008. For the life of me, I could NOT stop chasing that red dot all over the target. When I turned the daggum thing off and went back to using the rudimentary open sights, the problem went away completely. I’ve avoided lasers on handguns ever since.

I have yet to shoot a pistol with an RDS, but my sense is that it would be a lot more like using irons than it would be like using a laser. I could be wrong, but that’s my impression. For the record, I love a RDS on a carbine; and out to at least 50 yards, I shoot a carbine with an RDS about as well as I do with a magnified optic, and a little better with an RDS than I do with irons. So at typical handgun distances—say 25 yards and under—I don’t think an RDS-mounted pistol would be that big of a problem. Again, I could be wrong, but that’s my impression.