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I know you are looking at .380s ... Seecamp made a change to the mags back when the phenomenon known as .32 auto rimlock was discovered. Dunno that they ever had trouble with the .380. .32 auto rimlock occurs due to the ammo case dimensions, could occur in any .32 I suppose. http://www.1bad69.com/keltec/rimlock.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; I've never experienced a rimlock, but as I understand it the result is a failure to feed.

Only occurs on .32 ACP, not .380

oops, just happened to think/remember about AMT ... they made a SA pictured above which I wrote about (with grip safety and awkward thumb safety) ... but also later made the DAO ... which I did own in addition to the SAs I mentioned above, and sold it .. hated trigger pull, hated the extra weight, the SA was aluminum body, DAO wasn't I don't think eight AMT 380 is made any more ... parts availability unknown?

Not sure if you were asking about the SA or DAO AMT ...


But as I said, I'll probably eventually sell any of them except my Seecamps which are MINE, you can't have them

Size footnote
AMT is about the same size as Diamondback/Keltec/Ruger 380
AMT on top of Diamondback

Diamondback on top of AMT


Seecamp on top of a Diamondback

Seecamp is MUCH smaller than AMT (AMT is same size as Diamondback)

NAA and Diamondback (note thickness of the NAA

The ONLY reason for getting a clunky, heavy NAA 380 imho, is if you really need the 10 round mag and laser grips, which make it big and thick and harder to carry than a 9mm single stack ... good bathroom gun and looks interesting stored in a safe though. I don't have a Ruger LCP with laser, but I'd get one before an NAA or AMT ... but if you get a Seecamp, you may end up carrying it a lot :) ask Longtooth, I think he carries his daily too like I do.

left to right by size
Seecamp, AMT, Diamondback DB380, NAA Guardian
I won't part with, and carry daily, the Seecamp ... the others are safe queens I might trade/sell sometime

I've owned all the NAA pistols and 2 Seecamps and 3 AMTs SA, and 1 AMT DAO

in 380: the NAA is very heavy, I keep it in the bathroom with laser grip and the 10 round mag ... I've never carried it, never will ... seriously heavy and overpriced for what it is ...I kinda regret buying it years ago The NAA is huge compared to a Seecamp

The Seecamp, I have 2 in .32, want the 380 ... that company knows how to make a tiny pistol of quality, I carry one daily for years, sometimes both as backups to my Glock 26

Seecamp is a small company that hand makes guns, there's not really a "breakin" period because they fluff and buff out machine marks before sending the pistols out

Seecamp was never supposed to work with every ammo out there, it was designed around Winchester silvertips, and there''s a list of ammo it works well with on their website like Fed hydroshocks etc, ammo which is the wrong size isn't what it was designed for

If you're looking to front pocket carry, Seecamp beats the NAA by a long way, if you want something the bigger size of the NAA, get a small 9mm single stack .... they weigh less. A freind asks me every time he's over if I'll sell my Seecamps ... that's one of the few I won't part with.

AMT I had 3, and a buddy bought 1 and I've seen 1 other with a broken safety ... only one worked well, nice design idea, ... only 1 worked well ... good for pocket carry, even ankle carry... if you get one that works well OMT is the same pistol; not sure you can get parts for them now ...the ones I see at gun shows are overpriced for the reliability, worth it if you get a good one maybe, but a riskier purchase than a Seecamp IMHO.... out of 4, only 1 worked reliably ... AMMO they like round nosed best like Remington hollow points are more rounder nosed than most JHPs ... feeding problems on all with wrong ammo, but 1 out of 4 worked with round nosed type ammos....


Recoil, it isn't all about weight, but also surface area, hand's relation to bore axis, recoil springs, slide weight versus overall pistol weight etc
smaller guns are downright snappy, but these are all made for backup or deep concealment or last resort use... not a fun day at the range

I'd have no problem carrying my Seecamp front pocket to a Campus if it was decriminalized but just against school policy; it's invisible front pocket holstered. The others aren't really front jeans pocket guns imho ..

Recoil: None were intended to be "fun" at the range, they are self defense at close range guns.... backup for my 21 rounds in the Glock 26 or 14 rounds in the XD45 I carry ... or the invisible deep cover front pocket gun when I absolutely can't carry ANYTHING IWB