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Oldgringo wrote:Why stop with state secession? If the cities were to secede from the states, we could have a continent of city states like the ancient Greeks. Can anyone say, "Molon Labe"?

sjfcontrol wrote:

RPB wrote: UPDATE
Apparently 50 States have petitions to secede .., but if they all did, from whom would they?




White House ‘secede’ petitions reach 675,000 signatures, 50-state participation
http://dailycaller.com/2012/11/14/white ... icipation/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

From D.C., of course! Leaving it a very small area surrounded by angry X-states.

tallmike wrote:

RPB wrote:10 Senators ... I like that better than just two ... 10 out of 100?
10% of the US Senate controlled by Texans ... hmmm

It is amazing to me how many of you talk about the citizenry of the states as if they are a single mindset. Discussing an internet poll on secession as if it somehow represents the views of the citizens of those states. Or believing that if Texas suddenly had 10 senators you would agree with each of them. You would still only get to vote for 2 of them, folks in the new states of Dallas, Houston and Austin would also get to vote for their senators. The state of San Antonio might remain conservative, but it is unlikely the rest of them would.

All of these polls were probably put up by some 15 y/o kid out of California anyway, they have no relevance to the states in question.

Signing an online petition is like wearing a colored bracelet to support a cause, you didn't accomplish anything.

Dave2 wrote: You two know you're making the argument that Dakota, Carolina, and Virginia each currently have four senators, right?

sjfcontrol wrote: I would assume that it would amount to an additional 8 (with the two we already have). So it would be 10 out of 108, a bit less than 10%.

Fact or fiction: Texas is permitted to divide itself into five states.

FACT.

The 1845 Joint Resolution for Annexing Texas affirms Texas’ right to divide itself into five states if it chooses. Here’s the relevant passage, written in 19th century legalese:

“New States, of convenient size, not exceeding four in number, in addition to said State of Texas, and having sufficient population, may hereafter, by the consent of the said State, be formed out of the territory thereof, which shall be entitled to admission under the provisions of the federal constitution.”

Texas has never tested the treaty of annexation. But it is possible that ten senators could, at some point, represent the current territory of Texas. How ’bout East Texas, West Texas, Central Texas, South Texas and North Texas?

The only three states that lack secession petitions are Maine, Vermont and Washington.

.... petition to the Obama administration to allow ... asking permission to to, “withdraw peacefully from the United States of America and create its own new government.” ...