Unfortunately, I use NAV at work -- and my own tools find things that NAV doesn't catch. On top of that, NAV is one of the worst power hogs around. Used to read most of the PC mags, and won't anymore, for various reasons.Excaliber wrote:This month's issue of PCWorld rates Norton Internet Security at the top of the list, with Kaspersky a close second.
The detail in the article is worth the price of the magazine.
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- Fri Jan 14, 2011 8:51 pm
- Forum: Technical Tips, Questions & Discussions (Computers & Internet)
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Re: Best Virus Protection / Firewall software
- Thu Dec 30, 2010 1:16 pm
- Forum: Technical Tips, Questions & Discussions (Computers & Internet)
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Re: Best Virus Protection / Firewall software
Cannot agree.Tristor wrote:If you're running Windows, oddly one of the best AV software packages currently available is also completely free. Microsoft Security Essentials catches most of the common and really nasty stuff, and for the more malware (less virus/trojan) type items, you can use Malwarebytes Anti-Malware which is also free. Both are also fairly lightweight compared to other packages available, so won't impact system performance as much. As far as software firewalls go, just don't even bother. If you have any sort of always-on broadband connectivity like cable, DSL, or FiOS, you should be using a hardware firewall.
You can get a relatively inexpensive hardware firewall meant for consumer-grade use for around $50 at Wal-mart or any big-box store from Linksys, D-Link, or Netgear (I wouldn't buy Belkin). If you want something more stout, you can hit up E-bay and find high-quality used equipment between $50-$100 that is enterprise grade or at least SOHO-grade from Cisco, Juniper, and similar manufacturers. I personally use Cisco Pix 506s and Juniper Netscreen 5-GT Elites for several of my clients, and at my folks, grandparents, and my house. Each one set me back less than $100, and includes more advanced features than you get in a consumer-grade product (like being capable of IPv6/Toredo, support for VLANing, Port Security, and QoS tagging) and each one is also capable of handling many more sessions at a higher rate of speed. For most home users with a single computer or two computers, the difference between the average Linksys vs using something heftier won't be noticed, but if you're like me with 20+ systems on your home network, I'd recommend getting something more substantial.
Software firewalls, on the other hand, are completely and totally useless. In many ways, I wouldn't even consider them better than nothing. If you have to use one, the best you're probably going to do as far as protection vs performance-loss of running the software is actually the built-in firewall in Windows or Mac OS X. If you're on Linux, this isn't exactly the same case, but I expect people who use Linux already know about more advance lightweight software firewalls like pf and iptables.
Microsoft's quality control is so bad that I avoid everything MS as much as I can. (Unfortunately, very few software video packages are made for other than Windows, since they use the MS media player engine so much.) Indeed, it was a Windows "upgrade" that recently gave us our most difficult problem in many years. When I have a new machine, I install my favorite firewall and anti-virus, disable the Windows firewall, and remove NAV. Many of us wish we could do the same at my work.
At home, while we only have nine devices on three routers on our network, we have used for several years the free software firewall and antivirus packages we mentioned earlier, and have noted many attacks over that time; scans using separate software have shown us to be free of trojans and viruses. I cannot say the same at all for my machines at work, which completely rely on MS, McAfee, and Norton, where I've still found trojans using my own separate scans.
The hardware firewall in our DLink routers is not very good. According to DLink, it only uses static patterns, so is at best an initial safety device.
- Wed Oct 13, 2010 9:19 pm
- Forum: Technical Tips, Questions & Discussions (Computers & Internet)
- Topic: Best Virus Protection / Firewall software
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Re: Best Virus Protection / Firewall software
Actually, I think the discussion has split into two different areas:
1) danger from external attack, and
2) danger while browsing.
#1 first, as it's easier: A good antivirus, and more important, a good firewall. We've pretty well covered that in the thread so far. At home, we haven't had a successful attack in years, because we're pretty well buttoned up with Zonealarm and Avast.
#2: This is more complicated, although not too much so. Again, we have been in pretty good shape for a very long time.
First, a "good" browser. There are several. I avoid IExplorer, and even my workplace has made FireFox available to us (you could have floored me with a feather when they did, because they loooove their MS!). At home, we use FireFox exclusively.
However, that's just the foundation. The default options are pretty good for security, but go to Tools/Options/Security if you want to try different settings.
Next, I immediately go to Tools/Add-ons, and add three addons:
* CookieSafe.
Very simple interface, it stays on the status bar. Left-click to select "block cookies globally", then any page where cookies are desirable (such as a place I go to all the time, http://www.texaschlforum.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; -- you may have heard of it ), a left-click will bring up the option "allow texaschlforum.com" (which allows it to place the cookie that is created when you check "remember me" at signon).
* FlashBlock.
This inhibits FlashPlayer from working, allowing me to push a button when I want the flash on the page to play (I rarely do). More for avoiding annoyance than anything else.
* BetterPrivacy.
This is one I just started using; it searches for, reports on, and (if you tell it to) erases Flash cookies at close of the browser. These are the scariest, since these are the ones which can track and report your browsing. The first time I used it, it found 64 flash cookies!
Firewalls and virus checkers will not protect you while browsing. That requires the combination of a good (open-source) browser and just a couple of tools.
ETClarify: Virus and spyware checkers will protect you after browsing.
1) danger from external attack, and
2) danger while browsing.
#1 first, as it's easier: A good antivirus, and more important, a good firewall. We've pretty well covered that in the thread so far. At home, we haven't had a successful attack in years, because we're pretty well buttoned up with Zonealarm and Avast.
#2: This is more complicated, although not too much so. Again, we have been in pretty good shape for a very long time.
First, a "good" browser. There are several. I avoid IExplorer, and even my workplace has made FireFox available to us (you could have floored me with a feather when they did, because they loooove their MS!). At home, we use FireFox exclusively.
However, that's just the foundation. The default options are pretty good for security, but go to Tools/Options/Security if you want to try different settings.
Next, I immediately go to Tools/Add-ons, and add three addons:
* CookieSafe.
Very simple interface, it stays on the status bar. Left-click to select "block cookies globally", then any page where cookies are desirable (such as a place I go to all the time, http://www.texaschlforum.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; -- you may have heard of it ), a left-click will bring up the option "allow texaschlforum.com" (which allows it to place the cookie that is created when you check "remember me" at signon).
* FlashBlock.
This inhibits FlashPlayer from working, allowing me to push a button when I want the flash on the page to play (I rarely do). More for avoiding annoyance than anything else.
* BetterPrivacy.
This is one I just started using; it searches for, reports on, and (if you tell it to) erases Flash cookies at close of the browser. These are the scariest, since these are the ones which can track and report your browsing. The first time I used it, it found 64 flash cookies!
Firewalls and virus checkers will not protect you while browsing. That requires the combination of a good (open-source) browser and just a couple of tools.
ETClarify: Virus and spyware checkers will protect you after browsing.
- Thu Oct 07, 2010 5:16 pm
- Forum: Technical Tips, Questions & Discussions (Computers & Internet)
- Topic: Best Virus Protection / Firewall software
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Re: Best Virus Protection / Firewall software
I will still hold to my earlier recommendation, except there is one virus that those cannot possibly defend against: Windows Update.
Had another hard drive trashed by the WU virus Tuesday night, and spent last evening converting that dual-boot machine completely to Ubuntu. That was indeed the last straw.
Had another hard drive trashed by the WU virus Tuesday night, and spent last evening converting that dual-boot machine completely to Ubuntu. That was indeed the last straw.
- Tue Oct 05, 2010 7:51 pm
- Forum: Technical Tips, Questions & Discussions (Computers & Internet)
- Topic: Best Virus Protection / Firewall software
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Re: Best Virus Protection / Firewall software
For Windows, we use Avast! for virus, ZoneAlarm Basic for firewall, on all of our home machines for several years now. Both are reliable and free. We have had to pull Norton/McAfee off of computers at home (and most folks would like to at my work), because there is a significant slowdown of the machines.