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lrb111 wrote:

OldSchool wrote: Your post also brings to mind the SCOTUS decision that LEO's are not held accountable for protecting the lives of citizens (I wish I could find that decision for a reference), but there is full accountability when LEO's, Security, et al., fail to protect the lives of national figures. 'Nuff said....

Edit: Grammar.

Here's a start. There have been many decisions. http://www.firearmsandliberty.com/kasle ... ction.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Thank you so much, that's not a bad writeup, and the references help a lot.

Waco Kid wrote:I thought that one of the people who stopped the attack was a concealed license holder - but that he did not fire.

I could only imagine what would have happened if someone started firing back at the shooter... in a crowd. I think that would have been even worse. I'm almost *glad* nobody shot back at him - minimized collateral damage. I do wish it would have been stopped earlier though.

I've been in political events, and the crowds there act just like those at rock concerts -- don't plan on personal space, and don't put anything valuable in your pockets. I doubt very much that there would have been a clear field for "shooting back" in this case, especially since he was evidently in the heart of the crowd, very close to the prime actors.

Beiruty wrote:

OldSchool wrote:Briefly: Postings on other forums directly from Arizona indicate there's a lot of panicky commentary from state legislators, including picking up on the comments from the child's mother that "We have to protect the kids." Looks as if AZ is in for a tough few months over this.

so many DWI killed whole families in TX and I did not see a lot of panicky lawmakers screaming and yelling, not to draw parallel but lawmakers are scared to death because one of their own was targeted. What should be done if a public figure wants to do on the corner meeting with public, 2 or local PD officers is good security measure.

Agreed, this should not compare to 40,000 killed every stupid year (and not because of lack of security devices -- how did people ever survive in the 50's?), but "a crisis is too good to waste."

Your post also brings to mind the SCOTUS decision that LEO's are not held accountable for protecting the lives of citizens (I wish I could find that decision for a reference), but there is full accountability when LEO's, Security, et al., fail to protect the lives of national figures. 'Nuff said....

Edit: Grammar.

Briefly: Postings on other forums directly from Arizona indicate there's a lot of panicky commentary from state legislators, including picking up on the comments from the child's mother that "We have to protect the kids." Looks as if AZ is in for a tough few months over this.

What we have is more of a strong reminder that the Brady Bunch are still out there, waiting for anything to come their way....