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Mando'a

TLE2 wrote: So, it's not an M4-gery, it's an AR-15. An M4-gery in my view would be a cobbled AR-15 with an automatic function. My AR doesn't "auto". And it's .223 not 5.56 military.

Just wondering. If you denigrate the rifle, why buy one, rather than save your money ( for a long, long time) and by an M-4.

JMHO.

I meant in no way to denigrate the rifle. My friend who served two tours in Iraq, said he never had any issues with his M4. He just said to keep it clean.
If he had said it sucked (or the others in this forum thread), I would have bought a hunting rifle, or an ak-47.

But by my own definition, "M4-gery" would essentially be the civilian version of what the U.S. Military uses.
"M4-gery" would be the semi-auto vs the full auto (or burst). I just don't have any interest in a fully auto rifle, most of the other rifles I have owned/used, were bolt-action. So I'm used to firing, cycling, and re-acquiring my target. It will be nice to fire a rifle with a 30 round magazine, still having my sights (for the most part) still on the target. I simply wanted something for home defense, and maybe some hunting (feral pigs in particular).

Plus making it "Tacti-kewl."

I bought the Bushmaster Texas carbine (what the TxDPS is using), I guess this would be more of a true AR-15. I'm planning on upgrading the handguards, adding a mil-dot scope, and vertical grip. Maybe a light and laser; getting rid of the A2 front sight, and adding a different gas block.

After these upgrades, I would consider it a true "M4-gery."

Mando'a

Here's one I found earlier:
http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/edu49.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Seems pretty id-10-t proof....

I'll find out.

Mando'a

AndyC wrote:Try this for a start:

http://www.instructables.com/id/Cleanin ... the-AR-15/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Very nice resource, thanks!!

I've found a few others, but that seems more comprehensive.

Mando'a

I bought the Bushmaster Texas M4 carbine today.

It's going to be a few weeks before I can take it to the range.

I'll spend the time familiarizing myself with it.

Anyone have any good resources for cleaning?

Mando'a

Stopped off at GT Distributors in Austin and no love on the M&P15x, or any other S&W 15's.

They may have 'em in stock at the end of the month.

I called Red's and McBrides, they are out also.

Bummer

Mando'a

aaronspuler wrote:
Mando'a wrote:Well...

My wife just saw a pic of the rifle I'm planning to buy.

Her words, "Good G*d, that's what you want to buy! That's scary looking! Why do you need something like that?!?"

She didn't say I COULDN'T buy it though...

My wife asked if I was going to start up a militia :)

Yeah, I guess that is how they became called, "Uglies," and "Evil Black Rifles."

**slight grammar edit

Mando'a

Well...

My wife just saw a pic of the rifle I'm planning to buy.

Her words, "Good G*d, that's what you want to buy! That's scary looking! Why do you need something like that?!?"

She didn't say I COULDN'T buy it though...

Mando'a

big 54r wrote:It really depends on how you plan on using your AR.

If you are using the AR as a range plinker and just a fun shooter then that dps rifle should be fine.

If you plan on using the AR as a self defense/home defense weapon then I would go with an Lmt, Bcm or noveske.
Also get the 1/7 or 1/8 barrel in 5.56 chamber and you can use the heavy bullets for HD/SD, they are longer also.
With one of these manufacturers you will also get the correct height "F" marked front sight for an A3 flat top upper.
With some lower tier AR's like BM, Olyarms Dblstar and RRA the BCG isn't alway's staked properly so that is what quite often fails.

All that said if you don't plan on running your AR hard in some "shoot school" classes or learning to properly use the wep system then
you will be OK with the DPS AR. I have an Olyarms and love the thing but I don't consider it anything but a range gun and to use my 22lr conversion in to train cheaply, for more "social" work if need be I have an BCM upper with a LMT lower.

Also if you do get the AR do yourself a favor and definitely get a 22lr conversion and some Blackdog mags for cheap shooting/training, I trained the wife very cheap with a box of 22's and she learned the manual of arms quite fast.
My wallet was very happy!

I've been thinking about the .22 conversion kit also for training. I've never had a rifle like this before, so I plan on familiarizing myself with the rifle before I take it to the range. I'm more into bolt action rifles.

I'm planning on using it for plinking (MAYBE, hunting feral boars), and home defense. I keep hearing the .223 is an excellent home defense round.

Mando'a

gigag04 wrote:
For the money, I don't think RRA or S&W can be beat. Should be able to get a great rifle for under a G.

I'm glad you mentioned S&W.

I'm now starting to look at the Smith & Wesson M&P15X Rifle.
http://www.gtdist.com/ProductDetail.asp ... =SW-311008" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

They are running a special with this, 5 free magazines:
http://www.gtdist.com/Promo-SW-MP15-pmag.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I'm hoping to purchase it this Monday or Tuesday. I was surprised to find out that I got a bonus from work, which would almost cover the cost of the rifle (after tax). Plus 5 free mags sounds great.

Does anyone know if this comes with a carry case? I didn't see anything about it in the spec's.

TIA

And as always, many thanks for all the replies.

Mando'a

Thanks all for the responses.

Any suggestions for a cheap scope under $100?

TIA

Mando'a

I found this issue of "Slam fire," in a post from about two years ago on another forum.

Couldn't find much more than that on the topic.

But I had enough of a concern, to ask the good people of this forum. It's starting to sound like a non-issue, or an incredibly rare event.

As always, many thanks.

Mando'a

The Annoyed Man wrote:
Mando'a wrote:Is "slam fire," still an issue firing .223 from a 5.56 upper?
Firing .223 in a 5.56 rifle is a non-issue, and certainly not prone to "slam-fire." I've had slam fires from shooting .223 handloads in my 5.56 chambered Bushmaster varmint rifle, but that was because they were loaded too hot, not because of the leade.

Whatever you do, do NOT shoot 5.56 ammo in a rifle chambered in .223.

Understood, I did read that they are pretty much the same except, the 5.56 has thicker brass and has more powder.

I also read, that you can fire a 5.56 in a .223 barrel, but it's a really, really bad idea...

Thanks

Mando'a

Just finished my taxes, and it looks like my refund will be more than adequate to purchase an AR-15/M4-gery.

A few questions...

I found one that is spec'ed for 5.56. Should I even consider a rifle that fires 5.56, or just stick with .223?

Is "slam fire," still an issue firing .223 from a 5.56 upper?

Lastly, is this a decent rifle to buy:
http://www.gtdist.com/ProductDetail.asp ... 3F16M4TXIO" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I understand the TxDPS went with this model.

No doubt I will have more questions on this...

As always, thanks in advance.

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