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by seamusTX
Fri Sep 21, 2007 11:46 am
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Is your wallet really THAT valuable?
Replies: 56
Views: 9601

RubenZ wrote:So someone comes up to you and demands your wallet and you refuse. They then pull out a Gun. By that time it is too late for you.
You can legally use deadly force to prevent another's use of deadly force or to prevent robbery.

Robbery is theft abetted by the threat of force.

So if the "suspect" just says, "Give me your money," it might be considered aggressive panhandling or political fund-raising. :smile:

I think, both legally and morally, you have to be sure that it is robbery with a threat of force before you use deadly force.

As a practical matter, many people have gotten in a heap of trouble up to and including prison for shooting unarmed people, even though the incident was most likely robbery.

It's not fair, of course. One punch can kill. But when you just shot an unarmed "honor student" or football star, that argument may not hold much weight in court.

- Jim
by seamusTX
Wed Sep 19, 2007 10:17 am
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Is your wallet really THAT valuable?
Replies: 56
Views: 9601

DoubleJ wrote:I'm not betting my financial future, and freedom, on my IP address and other info being leaked from here.
It could be subpoenaed. A subpeona is not even necessary. If law enforcement asks the operator of a web site for information, the web site operator generally can and will give it.

- Jim
by seamusTX
Tue Sep 18, 2007 12:48 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Is your wallet really THAT valuable?
Replies: 56
Views: 9601

frankie_the_yankee wrote:I guess you read yours [insurance policy] more closely than I do!
I'm just a nerd that way. :grin:

- Jim
by seamusTX
Tue Sep 18, 2007 12:31 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Is your wallet really THAT valuable?
Replies: 56
Views: 9601

frankie_the_yankee wrote:Won't homeowner's insurance pay off if you had cash stolen from your house as in a burglary?
Every policy I have had excluded cash. It's too easy, if your house is broken into, to say, "Oh, BTW, I had $1,000 in cash in my sock drawer."

- Jim
by seamusTX
Tue Sep 18, 2007 12:01 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Is your wallet really THAT valuable?
Replies: 56
Views: 9601

frankie_the_yankee wrote:They carry insurance for this stuff too, so they don't really care.
Not that it matters, but I never heard of insurance that covers the loss of cash money.

Banks often have a special bundle of money to give a robber that has an exploding dye pack in it. The limit their loss by giving the robber what looks like a lot of money and isn't.

- Jim
by seamusTX
Mon Sep 17, 2007 2:04 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Is your wallet really THAT valuable?
Replies: 56
Views: 9601

Here's my thinking about this:

I was robbed once. It was a strong-arm robbery, three adults against one. I had no chance of escaping or fighting back. They got less than $20. At that time, I carried my wallet and cash separately.

It was no big deal, but I felt terrible afterward, like I had let someone spit on me. Being a victim is no fun. I'm not planning to let it happen again.

The other aspect is that by "giving them what they want," you reinforce their behavior. If a robber meets an armed citizen, it might encourage him to take up a safer line of work.

- Jim

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