People who are well over 21 do equally stupid things.
I've said it before: Some teenagers are more mature than some "adults." Calendar age is a very crude standard.
- Jim
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- Fri Oct 09, 2009 5:50 pm
- Forum: Other States
- Topic: Under 21 - No Reciprocity
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- Sun Aug 23, 2009 12:10 pm
- Forum: Other States
- Topic: Under 21 - No Reciprocity
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Re: Under 21 - No Reciprocity
In a democracy, some laws are going to be based on prejudice. (That's probably true in every other form of government.) No magical transformation takes place on your 21st birthday that makes you more responsible than the day before.
I remember when the drinking age was lowered in the 1970s and 80s, around the time that the voting age was lowered to 18. There was an explosion of DWI crashes and deaths among 18- to 21-year-olds, and that age group lost the ability to drink legally. (Of course they still mange to get booze, and alcohol abuse is a problem even among pre-teens now.)
The laws are full of these arbitrary age-based milestones, everything from the age of compulsory education to eligibility to run for political office.
Anyone who has a strategy to get the legislature to allow all 18-year-olds to get a CHL is welcome to try, and I will support them. I don't see it happening.
- Jim
I remember when the drinking age was lowered in the 1970s and 80s, around the time that the voting age was lowered to 18. There was an explosion of DWI crashes and deaths among 18- to 21-year-olds, and that age group lost the ability to drink legally. (Of course they still mange to get booze, and alcohol abuse is a problem even among pre-teens now.)
The laws are full of these arbitrary age-based milestones, everything from the age of compulsory education to eligibility to run for political office.
Anyone who has a strategy to get the legislature to allow all 18-year-olds to get a CHL is welcome to try, and I will support them. I don't see it happening.
- Jim
- Thu Aug 20, 2009 10:36 am
- Forum: Other States
- Topic: Under 21 - No Reciprocity
- Replies: 39
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Re: Under 21 - No Reciprocity
The last I heard, fewer than 50 people under age 21 had Texas CHLs. The information is on the DPS web site.
- Jim
- Jim
- Sat Aug 08, 2009 8:34 am
- Forum: Other States
- Topic: Under 21 - No Reciprocity
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Re: Under 21 - No Reciprocity
You are correct in seeing that officials in other states have little to nothing to gain from giving reciprocity to Texas CHL holders.
The argument that some Texans might not visit their state is weak, as fewer than half a million Texans have a CHL to begin with, and most of those will not curtail their travel because they can't carry in another state.
Getting legislation passed is not easy. If you follow the Texas legislative session, you can see that only about 10% of bills that are introduced become law. Other states are about the same.
That said, each state has a committee in each house of the legislature (except Kansas, which has a unicameral legislature) that is responsible for legislation concerning concealed-carry licenses or permits. I think those chairmen would be the first points of contact. If they are not agreeable, you can forget about it.
Then there are about 15 states that are not going to grant reciprocity to anybody in the foreseeable future.
- Jim
The argument that some Texans might not visit their state is weak, as fewer than half a million Texans have a CHL to begin with, and most of those will not curtail their travel because they can't carry in another state.
Getting legislation passed is not easy. If you follow the Texas legislative session, you can see that only about 10% of bills that are introduced become law. Other states are about the same.
That said, each state has a committee in each house of the legislature (except Kansas, which has a unicameral legislature) that is responsible for legislation concerning concealed-carry licenses or permits. I think those chairmen would be the first points of contact. If they are not agreeable, you can forget about it.
Then there are about 15 states that are not going to grant reciprocity to anybody in the foreseeable future.
- Jim