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by seamusTX
Thu Jan 13, 2011 12:08 am
Forum: Shooting Ranges
Topic: CO: Two women shot at shooting range, one fatally
Replies: 33
Views: 4915

Re: CO: Two women shot at shooting range, one fatally

According to autopsy and other forensic results published this week, the sister who is now classified a suicide had a history of "despondency."

Neither sister was under the influence of alcohol or legal or illegal drugs.

The surviving sister was discharged from the hospital in November and returned to Australia.

http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_17060642" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/26 ... etail.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

- Jim
by seamusTX
Thu Nov 18, 2010 8:42 pm
Forum: Shooting Ranges
Topic: CO: Two women shot at shooting range, one fatally
Replies: 33
Views: 4915

Re: CO: Two women shot at shooting range, one fatally

This article includes the sheriff's department press release:
http://www.aurorasentinel.com/hp_metro/ ... 03286.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Two .22-caliber handguns were used.

- Jim
by seamusTX
Thu Nov 18, 2010 6:53 pm
Forum: Shooting Ranges
Topic: CO: Two women shot at shooting range, one fatally
Replies: 33
Views: 4915

Re: CO: Two women shot at shooting range, one fatally

WildBill wrote:And maybe to collect insurance.
The suicide exclusion in life insurance generally is only for the first two years.

I suppose when someone buys a million dollars life insurance and dies in an accident a short time later, the insurance company looks hard at the circumstances. Probably they know all the tricks.

Anyway, I doubt this case has anything to do with insurance. Most unmarried young people have no life insurance, or only what comes with their job.

- Jim
by seamusTX
Thu Nov 18, 2010 6:29 pm
Forum: Shooting Ranges
Topic: CO: Two women shot at shooting range, one fatally
Replies: 33
Views: 4915

Re: CO: Two women shot at shooting range, one fatally

WildBill wrote:I wonder how many leave notes versus those who do not.
According to Wikipedia, 12 to 20% leave messages.

I suppose motive is a factor. Some people want to make a dramatic gesture. However, many suicides are impulsive; and some likely suicides manage to look like accidents, presumably to spare the survivors.

- Jim
by seamusTX
Thu Nov 18, 2010 5:57 pm
Forum: Shooting Ranges
Topic: CO: Two women shot at shooting range, one fatally
Replies: 33
Views: 4915

Re: CO: Two women shot at shooting range, one fatally

Sad.

Suicide notes are old-fashioned. Now it's Facebook pages or messages left on personal computers.

- Jim
by seamusTX
Wed Nov 17, 2010 11:22 am
Forum: Shooting Ranges
Topic: CO: Two women shot at shooting range, one fatally
Replies: 33
Views: 4915

Re: CO: Two women shot at shooting range, one fatally

Keep in mind that Australian newspapers are about as ethical as the National Enquirer.

All the news stories that I have read indicate that the women were acting normally until the time they were shot. One used the word "jovial." There also is no indication in their background of a reason for suicide. Suicide pacts usually involve alienated young people who have few interests, and usually at least one has some kind of mental illness.

- Jim
[Edited to correct typo]
by seamusTX
Wed Nov 17, 2010 9:51 am
Forum: Shooting Ranges
Topic: CO: Two women shot at shooting range, one fatally
Replies: 33
Views: 4915

Re: CO: Two women shot at shooting range, one fatally

Unless the injured woman recovers sufficiently to explain what happens, it may be months before investigators reach a conclusion. Autopsies seem to take a long time (not like on TV), and they would have to subpoena the medical records of the survivor.

- Jim
by seamusTX
Wed Nov 17, 2010 7:33 am
Forum: Shooting Ranges
Topic: CO: Two women shot at shooting range, one fatally
Replies: 33
Views: 4915

Re: CO: Two women shot at shooting range, one fatally

  • The women were identical twins.
  • The injured woman is unconscious.
  • Police do not know which is which.
  • The handgun they were using was rented.
  • The women had rented weapons at the range previously.
  • Surveillance video shows them falling out of the shooting stall simultaneously.
  • No one else entered the stall or could have shot them, according to authorities.
  • Police still do not know how many bullets struck the victims or who fired the weapon or weapons.
http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_16632861" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.aurorasentinel.com/email_pus ... 03286.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

It seems strange that they don't know how many weapons were involved. Surely the range kept a record. Since the women were temporary visa holders and not criminals, they most likely did not have a weapon of their own.

- Jim
by seamusTX
Tue Nov 16, 2010 8:19 am
Forum: Shooting Ranges
Topic: CO: Two women shot at shooting range, one fatally
Replies: 33
Views: 4915

Re: CO: Two women shot at shooting range, one fatally

It's more difficult to operate the slide of a small .380 than a big .45. Those cute little pocket pistols are an accident waiting to happen in the wrong hands.

Two people shot in the head at the same time is pretty difficult to explain as an accident, though.

This article doesn't offer much except that no one saw anything unusual:
http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/25 ... etail.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

- Jim
by seamusTX
Mon Nov 15, 2010 10:17 pm
Forum: Shooting Ranges
Topic: CO: Two women shot at shooting range, one fatally
Replies: 33
Views: 4915

CO: Two women shot at shooting range, one fatally

In Arapahoe County, Colorado (Denver area) today, two women who were shooting at a managed shooting range were shot, one fatally. The two women reportedly knew each other and are 29 years old. The authorities have divulged few details.

http://cbs4denver.com/news/woman.dead.s ... 10865.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

- Jim

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