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by seamusTX
Tue Sep 20, 2011 3:41 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: another beating at a McDonalds
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Re: another beating at a McDonalds

MedicMan218 wrote:...bad new, sex, drugs and scandals are what sells, not cute fluffy positive pieces with happy endings....and I hate that about the media.
Everyone says this, but everyone reads the same newspapers and watches the same TV channels—including me.

There is not a fluff-bunny and cute kitten and puppy newspaper, simply because there is no market for it. There is only a rather small market for inspirational stories, and even those seem to contain salacious details about how low someone fell before getting straight.

- Jim
by seamusTX
Tue Sep 20, 2011 12:34 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: another beating at a McDonalds
Replies: 103
Views: 11095

Re: another beating at a McDonalds

There were two separate incidents at different McDonald's in different cities.

IMHO, both became news because of the Youtube factor, with disgusting video made by spectators. TV eats up that kind of garbage and regurgitates it.

- Jim
by seamusTX
Mon Sep 19, 2011 9:27 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: another beating at a McDonalds
Replies: 103
Views: 11095

Re: another beating at a McDonalds

I think we see more news about this kind of incident at McDonald's (and Walmart) because of their market share. There simply are more stores, and more people go to them.

Also, I get the impression that there are more McDonald's in dodgy neighborhoods, and they are open later at night. I can't verify that statistically. I tried.

- Jim
by seamusTX
Mon Sep 19, 2011 8:31 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: another beating at a McDonalds
Replies: 103
Views: 11095

Re: another beating at a McDonalds

More to the point, I think, is mental preparedness. Any able-bodied person can gouge out an eye or cause near-heart failure with his or her (or whatever) bare hands, elbows, and heels. It doesn't take years of ninja training.

-Jim
by seamusTX
Mon Sep 19, 2011 6:33 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: another beating at a McDonalds
Replies: 103
Views: 11095

Re: another beating at a McDonalds

Your county DA is an elected official who wants your vote. You can call him or her and ask how these plea bargains and sentences are arrived at. This case was in Maryland, but the math is similar.

I don't necessarily like the situation, but cost-benefit calculations take place all the time.

- Jim
by seamusTX
Sun Apr 24, 2011 10:03 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: another beating at a McDonalds
Replies: 103
Views: 11095

Re: another beating at a McDonalds

Please let me pontificate on a few things:

The word transgender means whatever someone wants it to mean. It could mean a person who has had full-blown sex-change surgery or just someone who dresses and lives as a member of the opposite biological sex.

Many states do not legally recognize sex-change operations. (Texas is one of them. I don't know about Maryland.)

In any case, nothing this person did justified a beating. Even an attempted violent felony like robbery or kidnapping does not justify beating the perpetrator after the threat is ended.

Whether or not it is considered a hate crime is irrelevant. One of the suspects is a minor who is not likely certified as an adult. Therefore she will get whatever the local juvenile justice system metes out. If the adult suspect is found guilty of aggravated assault, she would be liable for a lengthy prison term (I think 99 years in Texas without bothering to look).

Some places have "one seater" bathrooms intended for use by disabled people or parents who are with a young child of the opposite sex. However, bathrooms that lock in public places create a problem that I will leave to your imagination.

- Jim
by seamusTX
Fri Apr 22, 2011 11:27 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: another beating at a McDonalds
Replies: 103
Views: 11095

Re: another beating at a McDonalds

THESE ARE TWO DIFFERENT INCIDENTS!

The one that I posted earlier in this thread took place in Cleveland, Ohio, on Tuesday April 19.

The one that ELB linked to, above, with the incredibly articulate story of the victim being a transvestite or transsexual, occurred in Rosedale, Maryland (Baltimore suburb), April 18.

That is the story that is or was on the Drudge report.

These are legitimate news reports of the Maryland incident:
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/art ... f4281f6450" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryla ... 3709.story" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.myfoxhouston.com/dpp/news/lo ... convulsing" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

- Jim
by seamusTX
Fri Apr 22, 2011 12:34 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: another beating at a McDonalds
Replies: 103
Views: 11095

Re: another beating at a McDonalds

While it is important for us to understand Texas law, because most of us spend most of our time in Texas, it would have been irrelevant here. I have no idea what Ohio law on use of force to defend oneself or a third party is.

It's also important to remember when you are traveling out of state. Only about half the states have "Castle Doctrine" or "Stand Your Ground" laws. The rest have explicit or implied duty to retreat.

Some states even have laws that make "brandishing" a criminal offense, and "brandishing" can include any movement toward a concealed weapon.

- Jim
by seamusTX
Fri Apr 22, 2011 10:41 am
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: another beating at a McDonalds
Replies: 103
Views: 11095

Re: another beating at a McDonalds

What do you do after you produce a weapon and start issuing commands, and no one obeys you?

To put it bluntly, what do you think is going to happen when a white man in plain clothes pulls a gun in a crowd of angry and excited black people?

What are the friends or relatives of the combatants going to do?

Please don't call me a racist. This is a real situation that police officers often face. And the police have more legal authority behind them and can call for backup.

- Jim
by seamusTX
Fri Apr 22, 2011 9:22 am
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: another beating at a McDonalds
Replies: 103
Views: 11095

Re: another beating at a McDonalds

It sounds like this incident:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nationa ... tiona.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.wtam.com/cc-common/news/sect ... le=8457812" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Short version: In Cleveland, Ohio, Thursday, during a highly publicized hiring event at a McDonald's restaurant, two women got into a physical altercation. The stories are not very clear, but one got into a car and ran into a crowd, injuring four people. The woman was arrested later.

A witness said, "...they were fighting over drama, hood stuff."

The first link above contains some really shocking video of the event. Try telling me one man could have done anything to control that situation.

The basic ethical question is whether your actions are going to do more good than harm, and the good includes avoiding harm to yourself. Easy to ask, difficult to answer. (Just call me Yoda. :smilelol5: )

I also have to say, I grew up in a place where racial tension was often close to the boiling point. A confrontation between people of different races could turn into a mob scene, and the party who was in the minority could be the object of conflicting and false accusations.

This particular location was probably ripe for this kind of emotional explosion, with hundreds of people applying for jobs.

- Jim

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