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Hoppes wrote:To your knowledge, is "Intentionally clearly defined in the statutes or laws?

PC § 6.03. DEFINITIONS OF CULPABLE MENTAL STATES. (a) A person acts intentionally, or with intent, with respect to the nature of his conduct or to a result of his conduct when it is his conscious objective or desire to engage in the conduct or cause the result.

- Jim

LedJedi wrote:Thank you VERY much for taking the time to hold one of us newbs by the hand.

You're welcome. I hope it helped.

The bottom line on this kind of thing is that if someone calls the cops on you for any reason, you're spinning the wheel of fortune from then on. It's best to be discreet and unnoticed.

Let's see what the real experts have to say.

- Jim

LedJedi wrote:question #2 was if i was OUT of compliance if someone noticed... i think you meant to say "no". just wanted to clarify that though. assumptions on this subject are BAD.

OK. Your question was cleverly ambiguous. Have you considered a career in law?

For instance, I wear a shoulder rig. IF someone sees that I'm wearing a rig but they don't see my gun or even my holster am I still in compliance?

What does "sees I'm wearing a rig" mean? If they can see a lump under your armpit, that could be a heart monitor, insulin pump, or something like that.

If they can clearly make out the butt, grip, or hammer of a handgun, I would say it is failure to conceal. But is it intentional?

LedJedi wrote:Hypothetically, if some nut went screaming that a CHLer had a gun but i was completely concealed and she just guessed it I might certainly be embarrassed, but will I be going to the pokey for failing to conceal because she guessed right or saw the strap on my rig?

You could. Every situation is decided by the responding officer and possibly his superior, if it's complicated.

I have never been in that exact situation, but if someone starts making a fuss around me, and I can leave, I do. The easiest solution to staying out of trouble is to be somewhere else.

- Jim

LedJedi wrote:What does the LAW say about printing? I hear people just crazy concerned about printing.

For instance, I wear a shoulder rig. IF someone sees that I'm wearing a rig but they don't see my gun or even my holster am I still in compliance?

GC §411.171. DEFINITIONS. In this subchapter:...
(3) "Concealed handgun" means a handgun, the presence of which is not openly discernible to the ordinary observation of a reasonable person.

PC §46.035. UNLAWFUL CARRYING OF HANDGUN BY LICENSE HOLDER.
(a) A license holder commits an offense if the license
holder carries a handgun on or about the license holder's person
under the authority of Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code,
and intentionally fails to conceal the handgun.

People are concerned about this for at least two reasons:

• In some states, printing and brandishing are defined offenses. (Neither is in Texas.)
• On a few rare but notable occasions in Texas, CHL holders were "made" and taken down hard.

The answer to your second question is Yes, IHMO; but if someone notices and starts shrieking, it would be embarrassing.

- Jim