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baldeagle wrote:The performance of ball ammo in war has no relationship to the performance of hollow point ammo in civilian shooting incidents. The fact is that rifles are more deadly than pistols, which is why every Marine and every infantryman and every support personnel is issued one but only certain ranks and MOSes are issued pistols.

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CC Italian wrote:Both of them said the only time someone used an m9 was when there rifle or shotgun malfunctioned. One even described the M9 as useful as a door stop!

I need a recent combat vet to school me on the "current" military (Army/Marine) policy on weapons issue. Back in the "olden days," from which my experience comes, pistols were not issued to everyone in the combat arms. For example, if you were a "rifleman" you carried the current battle rifle of the day, and no pistol. If you were a "heavy weapons" type that carried a light machine gun or part of a crew served weapon crew, you had a pistol. Support personnel usually had pistols or rifles dependent on duty position. When did the military begin issuing a rifle and a pistol to an individual soldier? I'm, not addressing special ops personnel, but rather the infantry type who are deployed in combat operations.

Dunno what the current practice is, but I think if I were in infantry, I'd want a pistol only as a backup gun -- in case my rifle was broken/stolen/etc -- and I think only with maybe two or three full magazines (including the one in the gun). Or maybe their packs are already so heavy that they regret the weight of their own sweat... I don't know.

CC Italian wrote:Both of them said the only time someone used an m9 was when there rifle or shotgun malfunctioned. One even described the M9 as useful as a door stop!