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by E.Marquez
Sat Mar 27, 2010 8:52 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: You ever been asked to leave or leave gun
Replies: 49
Views: 6318

Re: You ever been asked to leave or leave gun

Yes, my point exactly. One can comply with the law of keeping the weapon concealed (the laws definition of concealed and the defense to prosecution allowed) and not keep it a secret, as in your example of having an open discussion at an appropriate place and time.

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by E.Marquez
Sat Mar 27, 2010 8:21 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: You ever been asked to leave or leave gun
Replies: 49
Views: 6318

Re: You ever been asked to leave or leave gun

03Lightningrocks wrote:
texjames wrote:If your talking CHL carry is supposed to be secret and nobody should know you have a handgun so how can they even ask. (?)
I ask that question every time a thread like this pops up. I never seem to get a good answer. I suspect there are some who talk quite a bit to their friends and relatives about the fact that they carry. I never have these issues because I don't feel the need to advertise the fact that I have a gun on me.
Agreed, mostly.. it SHOULD be concealed, but not in the same level as implied by the term “Secret”
I have a differencing opinion on your choice of words.. the weapon is required to be concealed ("Concealed handgun" means a handgun, the presence of
which is not openly discernible to the ordinary observation of a reasonable
person.) Not a secret as some have implied.
I may have a different perspective of the word “Secret” then some others, as a Senior Non Commissioned Officer in the army for the last 24 years.. the word secret, top secret and my current clearance have a much higher stated and implied intent of keeping knowledge or info from someone then the laws and definitions concerning carrying a concealed handgun W/CHL IMHO,, Of course IANAL
UNLAWFUL CARRYING OF HANDGUN BY LICENSE
HOLDER. (a) A license holder commits an offense if the license
holder carries a handgun on or about the license holder's person
under the authority of Subchapter H, Chapter 411 , Government Code,
and intentionally fails to conceal the handgun.
(b) A license holder commits an offense if the license holder intentionally,
knowingly, or recklessly carries a handgun under the authority
of Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code, regardless of
whether the handgun is concealed, on or about the license holder's
person:

To me, that means we are required to make a reasonable attempt to conceal our weapon. But nowhere near the standard of keeping it a secret .. again IMHO, and IANAL
by E.Marquez
Tue Mar 23, 2010 8:51 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: You ever been asked to leave or leave gun
Replies: 49
Views: 6318

Re: You ever been asked to leave or leave gun

Short answer no.. Not in any of the 4 states and many years I've carried a concealed hand gun.

Additional answer is.. if asked, I’d respectfully give it one fair shot and changing their mind, then politely choose to not be there and go about my business. If that means I do not attend a dinner, meeting, party, wedding, I’m ok with that.

Many here talk about dressing to carry.. I suppose I choose my friends and social gatherings in the same ideal, so have never placed myself in a situation where someone would know/ask me to disarm.

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