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powerboatr wrote:still doesnt answer why DHS has purchased 1k armored pers carrier vehicles

They have?

By chance do you have a cite, link or copy of the purchase order? Delivery contract?

Like the discussion above on 1.6 billion bullets. I see a lot of talk, and no documents. So it makes my wounder if i'f it's all he said she said, taken out of context to feed the sheeple drama drummed up by Alex Jones types.

And out of curiosity.. with the thousands of MRAPS returning to the US from Iraq and Afghanistan, bought and paid for with funds long spent.. Being offered to US State, and Federal agencies who should get them? (by the way local LEO's, if your department is offered one or to purchase one RUN AWAY, they are a maintenance nightmare, your budget will go RED just keeping the things running... more so if you hit an occasional IED... )

So does ANYONE actually have a link to or copy of the ACTUAL purchase document? I for one would really like to read it for myself.

Hard to believe it is not out there someplace on the internet by now.

Thanks

Dave2 wrote: Really? If what I read is correct, they bought nearly a century's worth of ammo. How is that sensible? I mean, how would they know what calibers they need that far ahead? What if .40S&W and 5.56mm become obsolete next year?

Can you cite your data source and methodological for coming to that conclusion?

It does not even come close to what I think I have read, done the math on.

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I think this is thread drift, but related so figured i'd chime in.
1: Yes the US army issues pistols to infantrymen.
2: Yes generally it is a select few by duty position or duties assigned.
3: No idea other then movie quotes, or nonsense being passed on from one misinformed leader to there Soldiers, where someone would get the idea the pistol is issued for defensive use only
Field Manual 3-23.35 states in part "The main use of the pistol is to engage an enemy at close range with quick, accurate fire." The word "defensive " does not exist in the entirety of the manual.
The Pistol is issued to engage and kill the enemy, it may be drawn as a back up weapon, it may be used as a primary personal weapon for a vehicle gunner, it may be a back up weapon that is the proper choice as a primary for the task or mission. And many times it is issued to the Senior enlisted or officers that are too darn lazy to carry the weapon they should.

I've carried both the last thee tours. and at times a shot gun, and at times an EBR, and at times other long range rifles.

What this has to do with 1.6 billion rounds purchased by the US government for training Im not sure.. but there it is.