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RottenApple wrote:

styxx wrote:I cannot help but to wonder how many of the saber rattlers on this thread have actually worn the uniform during times of conflict. I hear and listen far more closely to the thoughts of folks like irpettit and suthdj and E.Marques than any of the sabre rattlers.

Are you tryng to say that if someone didn't serve in the military we have no right to an opinion? Or just that our opinion carries less weight?

I can not answer for him,, nor will I try.

I will respond for myself..
Your voice counts
Your opinion carries the same weight as mine.
Your opinion is viewed as someone with a vision, and ideal and a position that is brought about by your beliefs and experience. Like all others.

But, it is also true, that having no experience in horrors of combat, the conflicts of mental place sane military members have after killing another, causing others to be killed, making decisions that cause friends, fellow soldiers, to die or be dismembered.. And struggling every day to figure out why them and not you....... without those experiences first hand, your opinion is qualified in things that deal with the closing with and destroying of your enemy.
I say that with all due respect to you as a fellow citizen, and valued opinion.

I have an opinion on rape, it's victims and the scum that commit it. my opinion is qualified in that I have never been raped.

Having spent many days, many years actually, observing greatly motivated, untrained, pathetically equipped men successfully take on the Greatest Armies in the world with old rifles, revolvers, a few Mil grade weapons and homemade explosives.. I shake my head each time someone spouts the nonsense of "lay down your weapons, give up, if the government comes, there is nothing you can do."

Not so my friends, not so..
Just saying, the old adage, If there is a will, there is a way.. Is never more true than that above.

The Soldier does not want for war. The Soldier Citizen does not want for revolution.. For the Soldier knows the horror and tragedy that comes with a fight.