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philip964 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 18, 2020 1:51 pm

wheelgun1958 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 18, 2020 12:29 pm Rumor is that Trump had the vaccines engineered so that anyone taking it will vote for him in 2024.

Can’t run in 2024. Trump can only serve 8 years, unless he can get the constitution changed. 22nd Amenent.

Grayling813 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 1:11 pm Paging Governor Abbott....

Gov. DeSantis Announces the Immediate End to COVID Restrictions in Florida
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/elliebufk ... t-n2576925

srothstein wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 11:14 am

Rafe wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 12:27 amAnd I'm not quite sure what the hullabaloo is from Fox News or any other sources, really.

From what I have seen, the hullabaloo recently is about how to define a COVID death and the way CDC reports it. The CDC recently reported that 94% of the people who had died from COVID also had some co-morbidity. People who want to say that COVID is not as serious jumped on this to say that COVID really only killed 6% of the deaths and the co-morbidities would have killed the rest. People who want to show COVID is more serious say these people would have lived with their other problems anyway if they had not caught COVID.

I believe that the truth on COVID is probably somewhere in the middle. Some of the people with COVID and co-morbidities certainly would have died anyway. I am also certain some of them would have lived for years anyway. One of the best examples of the problem is when they list obesity as the existing condition. A person can be as few as 20 pounds overweight or as much as 100 pounds overweight and still be obese. I think the guy with the extra 20 pounds would probably last a long time, but the guy with the extra 100 pounds is probably close to a life threatening condition already.

The real problem is that by listing the existing conditions, it confuses how serious COVID is. This happens with other diseases also. Flu for example is much more deadly in the elderly and in people with compromised immune systems than it is in healthy younger people.

I remember one statement from an author asking if a person who is more than 80 can really be said to have died from anything other than old age.

philip964 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 18, 2020 11:53 pm

philip964 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 18, 2020 9:47 am March 13, 2020- 137,000 world, 5000 dead, 1700 in the US. Almost 15,000 in Italy. China is still holding near 80,000

March 16, 2020- 169,387 world, 6513 dead, 3774 in US. 24,745 in Italy with 1809 deaths. China is still holding near 80,000. Texas has 77 Houston at 30

March 17, 2020- 196,639 world. 7893 dead. 5894 in US. 32,506 in Italy with 2503 deaths. Houston at 36.

March 18, 2020- 204,277 world. 8,246 dead. 6519 in US. 31,506 in Italy with 2503 deaths. 81,102 in China. Texas has 132 Houston at 39

https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboar ... 7b48e9ecf6

The map of Africa now seems to have sprinkling of small dots evenly spaced across the continent. Not a good sign.

jason812 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 18, 2020 7:06 am
Dr. at White House press conference. She was asked the mortality rate and said 0.7%.

I calculated the US.

srothstein wrote: ↑Tue Mar 17, 2020 5:03 pm For comparison, between Oct. 1, 2019 and March 7, 2020, the US had between 36,000,000 and 51,000,000 cases of the flu, 17,000,000 to 24,000,000 of which required medical visits, 370,000 to 670,000 of which required hospitalizations, and between 22,000 and 55,000 deaths caused by the flu.

Source: https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/pr ... imates.htm