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On June 1st I wrote:

kw5kw wrote:During the summer I generally carry my .32 in my back pants pocket.... nobody could ever tell that it's there. (The KelTec P-32 is small and very concealable.) But, it is in for repairs at the factory... slide locked open and I could not get it closed, so I sent it in to be repaired. They said 4~6 weeks... you and I both know that probably means more like 8~9 weeks, so that's my summertime carry period.

I just received my Kel-Tec P32 back. Wow, that only took 14 days repair time and that included ground shipping to them.

I'm impressed.

I have my summertime carry pistol back!

Russ

Venus Pax wrote:... No one knew I was carrying except my friend and dh.
Dh knew where I was wearing b/c he happened to be in the room when I was getting dressed. ...

Do you frequent the RV forums? This term is used quite extensively there, so I knew exactly what you meant.

Russ

KBCraig wrote:The big variable no one has mentioned is girth. How big a boy are ya? </Roy D. Mercer>

I'm 5'11"; 200. The last belt I purchased was a 40 the last pants were 38's and had a bit of room left without being tight. While I have more of a 'paunch' than I had when I was 20--some 30+ years ago--I don't consider my self anywhere close to being 'obese'.

I just don't like IWB's and prefer OWB or shoulder... aka vest.

Just too darn hot in summer for sport coat, which is not a requirement in my job of I.T. management but I do wear in cooler fall/winter/early spring periods in combination with other types of garments such as regular jackets, windbreakers and vests.

I am not a proponant of weapons not on my physical person, such as in a briefcase, organizer etc. I firmly believe that you should never leave your weapon unattended for any reason when you're not at home.

At home I have no children, just the wife and with our one 'furkid', so security at home is not an issue with us.

txinvestigator wrote:
Texas Government Code, Section H
§411.171. Definitions.



(3) "Concealed handgun" means a handgun, the presence of
which is not openly discernible to the ordinary observation of a
reasonable person.



If I can tell by ordinary observation that you have on a gun, it is not concealed. A t-shirt over a belt holstered gun might be a problem.

This is exactly why I asked.

Is a 'reasonable person' one who isn't looking for a weapon. Could an over-zealous patrol officer be considered "reasonable"? Could another CHL holder be considered 'reasonable'? As, they could be biased towards looking for a weapon.

During the summer I generally carry my .32 in my back pants pocket.... nobody could ever tell that it's there. (The KelTec P-32 is small and very concealable.) But, it is in for repairs at the factory... slide locked open and I could not get it closed, so I sent it in to be repaired. They said 4~6 weeks... you and I both know that probably means more like 8~9 weeks, so that's my summertime carry period.

I've had my CHL for 4 years now, just went back for my renew. The CHL instructor, who was wearing a OBH with a vest over it, indicated that would be sufficent. But, I don't wish to 'risk' a lengthly explamation to FWPD in my local Walgreens over such. Said instructor said that even an "oops---the wind accidently blew my shirt away and exposed my weapon" is not considered an offense.

In the fall, winter, spring I can carry my 9mm in my inside my carry vest pocket which has a holster built into it, or under my sport coat or windbreaker... easy.

I'd rather leave my weapon in car rather than have a hassel with over-zealous FWPD personell.

Russ

Thanks for the welcome, I just found this forum.

Would wearing a 9mm in a belt holster with a tee-shirt draped over it to "hide" it... Is that considred concealed?

It's getting warm and my 'small' .32 is out of service for repairs for the next 6 weeks or so, and my Springfield XD-9 is large for me to carry during the summer time and I don't feel like a suit/sport coat in 100+ Texas heat.

Thanks
Russ