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jbirds1210 wrote:KW5KW-

We will have to discuss it over a Coke someday.....You lost me in dialogue.

I am obviously not doing a good job relaying my feelings. I am not an "in your face" kind of person, but I do not believe that makes me one to have my rights trampled on either.

Anyway...take care of yourself and I hope that we get to shoot together sometime when I am in Ft. Worth. I plan to visit in November if all goes well and get back over the the Shooting Gallery!

Lookin' forward to it!

Jason

anygunanywhere wrote:

kw5kw wrote:IF you have NOTHING to hide, what's the problem?

I have nothing to hide... anyone may come and search my vehicle at any time for I have nothing, no drugs, no illegal contraband--nothing, nada, zilch.

I could care less if they look.

Have you ever rented a car? NEVER

Anygun

jbirds1210 wrote:Russ-
I agree that many problems can be solved with a willingness to cooperate and a respectul attitude, which is what I have always offered and walked away each time without a criminal record. If you go looking for trouble...you will find it. This applies all aspects of life in my opinion.

For the sake of conversation......do you feel the same way about LEO searching other parts of your personal property.....your home, yard, boat?

I have nothing to hide... They can come look at anything they wish to, they can inspect my dirty laundry... do it while they looking would be even better. Maybe they're looking for a BG who's escaped or something, for they sure ain't looking for anything I've got.




I think there is a fine line that is easily crossed when it comes to the authority officers have and their practice of abusing it.

People hiding stuff from them gives them that attitude.

For instance: I'm in IT--Ok?
I am a nice guy... (take my word for it.)

People wait until my lunch hour (noon) or my quitting time (5:00) to tell me something's wrong with their printer or internet connection or something else. Anyway it's been that way for 3, 4 or more hours --- yet they wait until I'm ready for lunch or to go home before they tell me about it.

After six years, it's grating on me... they no longer get immediate service; if it took them 3 or 4 hours to tell me, then they can wait until I finish my lunch or till tomorrow to get it fixed.

I didn't used to be this way, but... but, after putting up with just so much abuse, I have developed a bit of an attitude.

Cops are the same way... yet they get it from everyone, including the Good Guys! This I just don't understand. We're the Good Guys... we're the CHL holders. We don't do bad things--that's been proven, so why are we trying to bash the other Good Guys--the LEO's?

Maybe it is time for some of them to get a new line of work, but just as I am here, they are where they are.

We need to put ourselves in their shoes, and not critize them but help them, for theirs is a thankless job.


I generally feel that most people are good people, but I do not want anyone going through my things unless they have a valid reason to do so. My point being that if I am pulled over and an officer just decides to violate my personal belongings out of mere curiosity...

I have not yet met a LEO that did this! Not once in my fifty plus years on this planet.

My ex son-in-law always thought that the cops were out to get him (he had reason to think this as he was not the most honest, upright, outstanding young man to ever hit this planet.


So, when he got pulled over, he was in their face... they always 'looked' for something...anything to put is sorry behind back behind bars where he belonged. And, you know what? I was very glad that they did. Look for any excuse to put his sorry behind back in jail that is!


...I will do what I can to make a formal stink about it.


I would never create a disturbance like this on the side of the road..that is one that I could never win.


Remember that if an officer is doing something that is illegal....making him/her lie about it later is considered a victory in my book. Is this really a problem for most of us here?

Jason