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For sure, not a good comparison, double action revolver hasn't been cocked yet.

Oh, we must be on the wrong forum, for talkin bout guns.

The Sig I've been drooling over for a while now is the P-239 in .40. It's my idea of the perfect concealment gun. I think I see one in my near future. My Officer is really the only reasonable one I can use for that now, except for my P-230 but I'm a little underwhelmed by .380's.

If that's directed at me you got the wrong gun. I'll take a Sig over anything else. Not just for safety but especially reliability. And their reputation backs it up. None of my Sigs have ever had any kind of malfunction and they're the only auto's I ever had that I can say that about.. Can't say it about my 1911's and sure can't say it about the Glocks. The one I still have had to go to Smyrna Ga. twice before it would work. I'll base my opinions on my own experiences and those of my friends. Our Glocks all jammed and our Sigs never have. What would you do? A firearm only has to do one thing. It doesn't have to send text msg's or open garage doors or play mp3's, just shoot when you want it to. If it can't do that I have no use for it. Especially the one you might be trusting your life to. If someone sells you bad products do you just keep on buying more from them? That's the definition of stupid. No, I go buy something that's proven, and it worked. I'm not saying you should go on my experiences because I have no doubt yours are different from mine, but I'm going to.

I AM WRONG? Might be a little hard to prove. Looks like we just have some differing opinions. If I overstated mine as facts I can retract that. You don't have to look very hard to find that Glock has had a pretty troubled history. They are probably the most sued gunmaker. Negligence would be the reason in most of the problems but humans are negligent. It is my OPINION that negligent humans are more in danger from a Glock that a gun with an external safety. You're not supposed to drop your gun. If you do you're not supposed to try to catch it. People do just that. People that know better do it. It's reflex. Would you rather it be a Glock or a 1911 or a Sig. There have been shots fired this way in Glocks, one of them was a cop (knew better). That's where the term Glock leg came from. One incident where a cop was shot by his little boy. Yeah the cop was negligent. Left the gun where the child could reach it. But it happens. If it had been a Sig or a Beretta, or a 1911 would it have happened? Maybe but probably not. What happened to him you would say couldn't happen to you. That cop would have said the same thing. There are a lot of people out there who think Glocks are less safe by design, not just me. I wouldn't even bet that I'm in the minority. Glock had some pretty serious reliability problems in the early years, I know that from experience, but that's another day.

Who is in charge of the facts?

When I say safety I mean a manual safety. Im' not saying I think Glocks and Kahrs shoud be taken off the market and I have no problem with other people carrying them but I don't think they are for newbies. I guess the thumb safety on my 1911 makes me feel better and if the extra 1/2 second it takes to click it off gets me killed I'll just take that chance.

So what's your point? I never said it would fire without something pulling the trigger. My point is that 5.5 lb is a little light for a gun without a safety.

I understand that. You go ahead and I'll just keep doing what I've always done. But I'll say it again. It's not really any different that carrying a revolver with the hammer back, it's still not gonna fire unless you pull the trigger. A 1911 with a safety or a Sig with a decocker will always feel safer to me.

OK so I guess it would be OK to carry a revolver with the hammer back.

I have owned Glocks for about 20 years. I have only one left now. It's the one that rides in the console of my truck. Partly because it holds 13 + 1 and it's a .45 , partly because if one of my guns get stolen I hope it's that one. I've been around handguns for about 45 years and I still don't feel good about a chambered auto with no safety. And no that little thing on the trigger is not a safety. There is a difference between a revolver and a Glock trigger. The trigger on a revolver has to go a long way before it fires. As far as the Taurus, I don't own one but I wouldn't hesitate to from what I hear and read. I've heard their quality is much improved.