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Sewer_Ice wrote:You are wrong, as we, CHL holders do have more rights/privileges than normal citizens. We get to carry guns concealed on our person while we go about our daily business. "normal" citizens (or non-chl holders) do not get to carry guns. Think about it in terms of a person with a drivers license, someone with a license can drive a car, someone without one cannot drive a car (legally).

I am not saying we are better, but we are licensed to do something that others are not, like doctors practice medicine, attorneys practice law, and so on.

How courageous you are to say, flat out, I'm wrong. I believe that our forefathers would disagree with you in that no one has more rights than any other citizen, "normal" or otherwise. We don't "get" to carry guns because of a right, the getting a permit has nothing to do with a right. All citizens have the right to carry arms, but the government has stolen that right and replaced it with a privilege, so comparing the driver's license to a CHL is basically stating you are all right with the government doing that.
I don't want to re-state my view here, trying reading here.

stevie_d_64 wrote:I actually like the Austin American Statesman...

OK.
The good thing about the AAS is that it is free, online. They do allow public comments after most of their articles and editorials. I don't know where they stand financially, but there have been rumblings about them selling.
They just seem to be so liberal in their stances when editorializing.

They could make it easy and just approach a DPS officer out in front of the detectors, state you are a CHL and carrying. They would ask to validate your ID, and then allow you to walk around the detector. As far as anyone non-CHL seeing it, they could just assume you are a VIP that gets special treatment. I doubt anyone who is not familiar with CHL's would ever figure it out.

I can't imagine that, first thing you know, people will be screaming about their rights being violated because certain people are getting more privileges. This is what CHLers would or should do. If offered that special privilege we should turn it down. After all, we really don't want more privileges or rights than any other citizen. Otherwise, I'd think we were hypocritical. If we don't have to go through the detectors nobody should.
If we want anti's to acknowledge our rights, we should be sure to acknowledge theirs.
Actually, what I'm saying is we should be fighting tooth and nail to prevent the ridiculous idea of metal detectors, not already conceding to it.
Am I wrong?

Keith B wrote:

O6nop wrote:If CHLers were allowed to bypass the metal detectors, wouldn't that mean that you'd have to publicly reveal yourself as having a weapon? That would defeat the purpose of concealed carry.

Not really. All you would have to do when you approached the DPS officer at the deterctor was flash your CHL badge.. umm I mean card and they would allow you to pass; the same process that is supposed to happen at the State Fair.

I guess I'm not sure how metal detectors work. If you flash your card (and obviously others will see you doing it, exposing you as a CHLer), Do they turn off the machine, or provide a way to walk around it (thereby exposing you as a CHLer)?
I've haven't been to the State Fair in the last 15 years or so, I don't know how that works, either.

If CHLers were allowed to bypass the metal detectors, wouldn't that mean that you'd have to publicly reveal yourself as having a weapon? That would defeat the purpose of concealed carry.