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Paladin, thanks for the link. I don't know if the media ever reported, but the toxocology (spelling ?) report on Platt was ZERO. He was running on pure adrenilene. The training film also noted that he initially received a "NON-SURVIVABLE" wound from the 9mm into the chest cavity. If there had been an operating room right there and he went for surgury, he still would have died. I'm *NOT* trashing 9mm rounds or wanting to say another pistol round would have been better. My whole point is they good guys were out gunned. I don't EVER want to be out gunned. If the BG have a rifle, then I want a BIGGER one !
Don't start trouble, just return fire as necessary :)

Bubba

[quote="Paladin"... snip
During the evacuation my AR and plenty of ammo was right upfront with me (concealed, like all my handguns, of course).[/quote]

Dress for the occasion :)

Another thought that comes to mind here is the shootout in Florida maybe 20 years ago when the LEO were using 9mm and the BG had a 223 rifle (Ruger IIRC). They were out gunned. We saw the training video from that mess. One of the surviving officers said they were out gunned. The stinkin news media reported it quite differently. :(
When LEO, I *ALWAYS* carried a long gun in the car.
It's just standard equipment.

Bubba

Until several years ago, I couldn't have imagined someone flying a plane full of people into a building on purpose. The world is an UGLY place and the BG don't always just show up one or two at a time to steal your stuff. Sometimes they showup in big numbers intent on mass destruction. Yes. I know I'm preaching to the choir here (this forum) but I always want the unfair advantage. If it's going to be a gunfight, then I want to have the biggest gun. The Tyler incident could have ended much better if Mr. Wilson had a rifle.

Consider the boy scout concept of being prepared, not looking for trouble.

Just my redneck opinon. PEACE to you and yours.

Bubba

Just curious if anyone else "also" carries a long gun in vehicle for self defense purposes. In a recent CHL renewal class, the instructor made the comment that nobody carries a rifle for SD, only hunting, so expect the Game Warden to ... (can't remember because of shock at the moment). Since it was a classroom and not the real world, I chose not to engage her in argument. Ever since I was old enough to drive, I was armed. It's just standard equipment ! Shotgun or rifle, whatever is your choice, maybe that's just me.

All in all, the CHL renewal class at Tac-Pro was good.

:)

Bubba