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WildRose wrote: ↑Tue Sep 18, 2018 6:18 pm This thread proves we have way too much gov't, far too many laws, far too many people in power with zero respect for the original meaning and intent of the 2nd Amendment.

When a man has to work this hard just to figure out how to keep from running afoul of the law something is wrong.

While not everyone appreciates her writing and she had some pretty screwed up ideas, Ayn Rand's "Atlas Shrugged" was perhaps even more prescient than Orwell's 1984 about where we are today and where we are heading. My favorite quote is this one. For those who don't know, the Reardon character in the book had invented a very unique and useful metal that the government was in the process of taking from him. Dr. Ferris, a spokesman for the government delivers the message.

We're after power and we mean it. You fellows were pikers, but we know the real trick, and you'd better get wise to it. There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them...you create a nation of lawbreakers – and then you cash in on guilt. Now that's the system, Mr. Rearden." (2.2.3.39)

And yes, my citation in a previous post was a typo. I had the COE page in a separate window and couldn't seem to type it correctly.

Ruark wrote: ↑Mon Sep 17, 2018 6:28 pm Whoa, whoa, whooooooa. Read that federal law again. It says "the possession of loaded firearms...." So if you're on COE property, you can carry, but just keep the magazine handy. Right?

No. Federal regulation 357.13 (a) Possession of loaded firearms, ammunition......is prohibited.

This one sticks in my craw because we have an RV and used to like to camp on COE property. Lake Whitney is a great example where there is both a COE RV park the the Lake Whitney SP park which is controlled by the COE. When we traveled, there were a number of nice COE parks in SC.

In addition, it means that I cannot park on any of the parking lots on Lake Grapevine even if I follow the FOPA rules of separating and locking the ammunition.

One could say that this is too narrow of an interpretation. One could also say that the COE has already lost in Federal court in their denial of concealed carry and has chosen to implement that loss only in the Federal district in which the loss occurred. I believe that President Trump could direct the Secretary of the Army to implement that decision across the country and make this all go away. But until it does, that is the Federal law.