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by chasfm11
Wed Dec 12, 2012 8:44 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: New Coalition Forms to Stop Concealed Carry in Illinois
Replies: 25
Views: 2904

Re: New Coalition Forms to Stop Concealed Carry in Illinois

Thanks for the info, ELB. I know the media doesn't help but why don't we hear much about the pro-gun forces in IL? You would think that they would find a way to bubble up out of the anti-gun soup once in a while and be heard, at least on the Internet.

I know that there are pro-gun forces in NJ, too, but so far they might as well be spitting into the wind.

So State Senator Trotter was trying to carry a handgun past TSA on his way to D.C. What does he have to add to become a three time looser?
by chasfm11
Wed Dec 12, 2012 5:30 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: New Coalition Forms to Stop Concealed Carry in Illinois
Replies: 25
Views: 2904

Re: New Coalition Forms to Stop Concealed Carry in Illinois

Keith B wrote:You have to remmeber, there is Illinios, and then there's Cook County, which just happens to sit in Illinois. They are totally different on views. If you go to the central of southern part of the state the folks are many times big-time hunters and outdoors types. They hate the politicians in Springfield that come from Chicago and surrounding areas more than anyone.
Apparently the hatred isn't strong enough to put together a group to do something about it.

According to the 2011 census, IL has a population of about 12.8M.
http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/17000.html

Cook County has a population of about 5.2M, 58% of which are in Chicago
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cook_County,_Illinois

I don't believe for a minute that Chicago elections are fair 1-voter, 1 vote contests. But I also don't believe that every person in Chicago votes. Based on the Presidential numbers, (2.9M for Obama, 2M for Romney) it looks like about a 5M voter turn out. If the counties besides Cook were to "run the table", I suspect that they could outvote Chicago. I do realize that is asking a lot.

I'm taking a laizzez faire approach to all of this. When the voters do get fed up enough, they can fix it.
by chasfm11
Tue Dec 11, 2012 8:17 am
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: New Coalition Forms to Stop Concealed Carry in Illinois
Replies: 25
Views: 2904

Re: New Coalition Forms to Stop Concealed Carry in Illinois

While it probably won't do any good, it might be a great time for those in IL who are tired of the oppression to form a coalition of their own to publicly promote concealed carry. I admit that they would not get support from any of the local media but if they built an ad campaign to refute the Goodman lies, it could be enough to push the lame duck session into action.

Continuing to suffer in silence does not seem to be an effective counter-tactic.

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