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by chasfm11
Fri Oct 18, 2013 2:34 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: UN Arms Trade Treaty DOA in US Senate
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Re: UN Arms Trade Treaty DOA in US Senate

Superman wrote:
Teamless wrote:If I remember my history lessons of 25+ years ago, the Senate has to approve all treaties, which if by approval it means to vote yea or nay on it, thats probably all they need to do.
If the Senate votes nay, then the treaty is not official and has no power.
I understand that the Senate has the authority to approve / reject treaties. This doesn't answer any of my questions. Let me rephrase:

- Once the Secretary of State signs a treaty, does it have to go to the Senate for a vote, or can it stay forever in "limbo" as signed but not ratified? The reason for this question (hence my second question) is since the administration now knows that the Senate will not approve it, can they simply not send it to them so that the administration can enforce the treaty via executive action?

- If the treaty cannot stay in a "limbo" state forever and has to go to the Senate for a vote, and the Senate rejects the treaty, is that rejection binding on the administration so that it is illegal for them to try to enforce the treaty anyway?
The US never even signed the Kyoto treaty and the EPA is enforcing it. 'nuff said.

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