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The Annoyed Man wrote:I feel bad about his dog, but Rosby is an idiot.

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philip964 wrote:I'm sorry a dog died for an irresponsible owners actions.

RoyGBiv wrote: If you can't win a debate about secular law without invoking God, you've not won.

I didn't invoke god, just asked the question. Because the argument against same-sex marriage is based on the nature of human persons as gendered beings who have a purpose that is derived from that nature.

RoyGBiv wrote:HOWEVER, when two consenting adults of any stripe decide to commit to a relationship, they should have the Liberty to do so, within the confines of secular law (in this case the age of the parties).

So you would have no problem with incest and would argue to repeal the prohibitions against it?

Thats vague nonsense insufficient to support against the inalienable rights of individuals to do what they want in a free society. If thats your standard, just about everything in life violates it, and I'd bet good money you'd not like where that chain goes. If everything impacts the village, then ...

Again, please define exactly how it impacts your marriage. I've seen this asked a few times in this thread, so let me see if I can add some clarity since the concept of a counterfeit is something that's not getting across. Evidence abounds that traditional marriage enhances an individual’s life spa...

Polygamy has a long tradition in Human history. It also appears in The Bible, and not in a negative light. So whether we're arguing from a secular or religious basis, there's a much better argument to allow polygamy than there is to sanction same sex marriage. Hmmm...I think you might want to revie...

Sorry about that! Got ahead of myself :tiphat: One can compare a unhealthy heterosexual marriage—one featuring drug addiction, for example, or a single mother with 5 kids by different men - to a relatively healthy same-sex relationship. But pitting the worst-case scenario of one against the best-cas...

cb1000rider wrote:On polygamy: Clearly you've never watched Big Love. More wives = exponentially more trouble. Not worth it!

You raise an interesting relationship. On what rational basis do we have for barring polygamy? And by allowing same sex marriage, do we still have this rational basis?

Please define exactly how it would harm his marriage. If we are to begin discussing exactly how it would harm marriage, first we need to define our terms and what marriage "is" first. Then we could begin to see how it might be harmed. Once we have a definition of what marriage "is&qu...

I've been married to the same woman for 29 years...who someone else wants to marry has no effect on my marriage and I don't have a problem with it. While I commend you for your 29 year marriage to the same women, I would ask you to rethink your statement that someone else's marriage "has no ef...

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Your son and the entire family will be lifted up TAM!

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