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Liko81 wrote:* OC is, unequivocally, faster to draw from than CC. Period. CCers can argue all they want how pretty darn close they can get, but an unobstructed pistol at 3:00 OWB is always the benchmark. If it were faster to draw from concealment, you'd never see a gun because police officers would conceal all the time for performance reasons.

Absolutely false. Period.

Liko81 wrote:* OC is a visual deterrent. In addition to it being faster, police officers carry at 3:00 because that gun is, at all times, a signal that the officer can handle any situation.

OC is not a visual deterrent in most if not all situations. OC by the general public is still meant for personal protection. A criminal intent on committing a crime will do so whether an OC'er is present or not.....the OC'er will just become the first target/victim or he will wait till your gone.

Liko81 wrote:To those who state that OC would just get you shot first, I have two rebuttals: first, how was your daydream?

I'm one who claims that OC is the act of painting a target on your back and may cause you to become the recipient of unwarranted criminal attention that you would not get with a CC. Daydream? That's a bit harsh.

Liko81 wrote:When carrying, openly OR concealed, you should be in Col. Cooper's Condition Yellow at all times.

I agree.

Liko81 wrote:A person who was shot before they had a chance to draw got blindsided.

I agree. Which leads me to my next two points.

Liko81 wrote:Second, you can only get shot when the bad guy has a gun. An assailant with a baseball bat or a knife is going to take one look at you and find someone else to work over.

Not true! The gun your carrying is probably more valuable than anything a bad guy can get off someone else, not to mention that you may carry more cash because you believe you can defend it. The bad guy just presents himself in a non-threatening manner and approaches you without raising your heightened sense of awareness, then he bops you, stabs you, or just sucker punches you to La-La land and then he's the new proud owner of your OC'd weapon and other valuables.

Liko81 wrote:Guns are force equalizers; if you as a bad guy know I have a gun, even if you have a gun, you're going to want to point it at someone else.

Not true.....the bad guy knows you have a gun.....you don't know that he has a gun. Along with the above mentioned scenario, he has the absolute element of surprise. You lose the fight before it ever starts.