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K.Mooneyham wrote:

Abraham wrote:Plus, the smart-est of the criminal class are: Politicians

Don't for a moment believe what ever they profess is their heart felt goodness for their momentary cause, cross their hearts, is what they sincerely care about. No, they're evil to their core.

Here's what they believe in: Getting... money, power, prestige and every other thing to get THEM ahead.

You, don't matter, except to help them get ahead.

If, you're naive enough to believe other wise you're just another sucker...

Then, I guess none of us ever need vote ever again. Why bother with being NRA (or GOA, or SAF, etc.) members. Why bother with anything. We should all just throw our hands in the air, and run screaming and crying, it would seem. Somehow, I just don't see things that way, and I didn't think that's why this forum exists. I guess I'm going to have to take a long break from here.

Naw, I believe we got to keep fighting. With Trump we did get a conservative Justice as well as many others at the lower levels. Could you imagine the obverse? Is the Senate going to allow CHL recognition throughout the States? Probably not, especially during the current time. But, we got to keep pushing, writing and teaching others, or simply just roll up and die. I personally intend to keep fighting, the best I personally can. I ain't going to vote Libertarian just to prove a point, and loose elections. I sure ain't never going to vote Godless Democrat, so Republican it is. Hopefully I and others like me can hold the line and not either give up or punish those who don't fully follow my agenda. We do need some new Generals and I believe that they will be stepping forward. I have already seen several changes with my Representatives. I reckon I am one of those American Patriot Suckers, but, hey I am also a Christian, so I probably don't fit in to many of today's neat boxes, LOL.

I was not going to post a reply, but after rolling it around a bit, I will post my take.

I have read CALGUNS for as long as I have been on this site and have watched their rights spiral downward. I also recall how those folks were stating how they would never vote Republican again and etc. It sure hasn't turned out good for them. I will continue to vote Republican as well as fully support the NRA, as I believe it will be far easier and even perhaps surer to change a Conservative to being more Conservative than changing an avowed Socialist/Liberal Democrat to being pro-gun and Conservative.
I do have my issues with Trump, with Cornyn and with Cruz, and very often with the NRA. But, they are all I have. Stopping Bump Stocks has been occurring almost every year that they have been out and to me, something that has been stopped via fiat, is easy to change back via fiat. Not right, but with that said, could you imagine what would be going on if Hillary and the Democrats fully controlled the Nation? Go ahead and be like those in California, don't support the Republicans and either don't vote or vote Libertarian and watch our rights rapidly dissolve. Not only gun rights, but also rights to worship, to speak your mind and etc. I don't want to be California, so I will support the viable alternative and work to change within. A fully disabled Republican Party and Gun Rights organizations are my worst nightmare. Because then the only alternative is the cartridge box, because Marxists don't give up or stop until either they or the alternative are fully exterminated. All of history is my witness.
So, I support Trump, I believe he has done more to improve America in his first year than any other President, including Reagan. I also support the NRA, under Wayne LaPierre, I have seen massive improvements in Gun Rights. There is a war going on and in my opinion, we cannot separate, we must remain together, or be prepared to become California lite for sure.

Charles L. Cotton wrote:

RicoTX wrote:

Richbirdhunter wrote:Once you give a dog a bone, he wants another bone.

Agree 100%!

Why give up anything. What's next? 20 or 30 round mags?
Are some of us willing to give those up too?
Because I'm not...and won't.

I'm so sick of buzz phrases. No one is "giving up" anything, but the reality is we could well see bump-stocks "taken away" because the votes are probably there. Wake up people and see what's happening!!!! Bloomberg and Hollywood are pouring money into this effort and the media is helping to the fullest extent. We've never had this level of opposition before, not ever. It's a campaign of lies and distortion, but it's very well funded and they are playing on the sympathy factor of kids getting killed.

If you really want to make a difference, then start recruiting NRA members every single day. The NRA better be 15 million strong soon, or this is only going to get worse.

Chas.

This is it exactly. Anyone want to see their worst enemy? Look in a mirror. All I hear is how bad and malleable the NRA is, how they are always bending on gun rights. I then ask, Are you a member? The answer is No. Then I ask, Why don't you join and make your voice heard? Answer, I wouldn't give my money to an organization like that. What? Really? We fight each other more than the true enemy. Same as Christianity. I do go to Church, I do worship the Lord. But, all I hear from fellow Christians is that the way their Ecclesia worships is the right and only way. The left, although they truly are, in my opinion, Godless Communists, do stick together. Shoot, they burn neighborhoods down and only very few are even arrested. Homosexuals want to have a Gay Pride march in a conservative town and are refused, sue and will probably win. Christians can't even display a cross without being sued. AARRGGH! The media, which they have subverted to their side fully, backs them as well fully. We are on our own, we aught to at least stick together as one Fist! The way I see it, we are the ones bending to the leftists. I read Calguns and they in California have lost. Just a decade or so ago, they could open carry, although unloaded. We couldn't in Texas. Now the California gunowner would give our rights away if they could only carry concealed. This meaning 10 day waiting periods, only certain weapons and etc. Californians saying that they vote socially progressive and then complain when they not only have lost most of their gun rights, they continue to lose them. Then they complain that the NRA didn't spend all of their capital to keep the wolf from their door, after "They" opened it! I am a one position voter, Gun Rights is it. I know that sometimes battles go differently than I want, but as a former soldier with over 21 years in, I know a lost battle does not equal the war. I have noticed that everyone that is pro-gun is also on my side on almost everything else. I am a member of the NRA, even though not everything they do I agree with, but I also support them. Yeah, lets spend all of our capital, including political capital on bumpstocks, that the ATF has been trying to get forbidden for almost every year they have been out. I tell you, if all 150 million or so of us Gun Owners, voted as block, we would have no issues. Who here is actually members of the NRA? They say that NRA has only 2 million or so members. I don't know if that is true or not, but there should be 150 million. A few of us are carrying the water for millions of others is the way I see it.