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More pushback against these "mass shootings" jerks. http://dailycaller.com/2015/12/03/355-w ... shootings/

AndyC wrote:As for shootingtracker.com - I don't know if you're aware of this:

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2015/1 ... ropaganda/

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2015/1 ... out-facts/

Unfortunately that's 2013. I'm working on 2015. But thanks for the links. They were helpful to get a more complete picture of the source of this baloney.

I'm up to 50 now. Here's the types of events. It's pretty clear that the predominant sources of violence in America are drugs, alcohol, gangs and family or friend disputes.

Bar fight
Domestic Violence
Not reported - neighbor dispute? Drug related?
Drug related
High crime area - drug related?
Gang related
"targeted shooting"
Gang related
targeted - mother, landlord, boss?
Hip hop violence
illegal liquor house
Home invasion
Argument at a party
Bar fight
Bar fight
Argument at a party
Car wash brawl
Not reported - neighbor dispute? Drug related?
Argument at a party - gang related
Argument at a party - gang related
Domestic Violence
Unknown
Home invasion
Domestic Violence
Domestic Violence
Bar fight
Domestic Violence
Gang related
Gang related
Domestic Violence
Bar fight
Drug related
Gang related
Motel fight
Domestic Violence
Retaliation
Domestic Violence
Drug related
Domestic Violence
Unknown
Mental Illness
Domestic Violence
Drive-by shooting
Random shooting
Argument at a restaurant
Domestic Violence
Gang related
Gang related
Gang related

I have now finished the first 30 "mass shootings" in the list. Here's the list of the Types of Events
Bar fight
Domestic Violence
Not reported - neighbor dispute? Drug related?
Drug related
High crime area - drug related?
Gang related
"targeted shooting"
Gang related
targeted - mother, landlord, boss?
Hip hop violence
illegal liquor house
Home invasion
Argument at a party
Bar fight
Bar fight
Argument at a party
Car wash brawl
Not reported - neighbor dispute? Drug related?
Argument at a party - gang related
Argument at a party - gang related
Domestic Violence
Unknown
Home invasion
Domestic Violence
Domestic Violence
Bar fight
Domestic Violence
Gang related
Gang related

Clearly none of the 30 are mass shootings, as those are commonly understood.

Just so everyone knows, I am presently working on the spreadsheet. I have added a column for the number of the shooters and a column for the type of event. I'm also adding links to more descriptive information about the shootings.

I only have five done so far, because it's a lot of work. When I'm done, I will post the spreadsheet to my blog and include the link so anyone can download it or reference it.

Here's what I have so far:

Dead Injured Shooters Location Type of Event
0 5 2 Memphis, TN Bar fight
1 4 1 Savannah, GA Domestic Violence
3 1 1 Dallas, TX Not reported - neighbor dispute? Drug related?
2 4 2 Roanoke, VA Drug related
1 3 2 Miami, FL High crime area - drug related?
1 3 1 Chattanooga, TN Gang related

As you can see, none of these meet the common understanding of mass shootings.

doncb wrote:On NPR this morning, one of the people they interviewed said they used AR15 style rifles (DPMS and S&W) and had 2 pistols (S&W and Lama?). He also made the comment that the man had left the party and went home and got his wife and the other person and returned to the scene.

As to the gun grabbers, maybe if California didn't have such stupid gun laws, there might have been a couple of CHL holders in that room. At least the toll might not have been so high.

Gabbie Gifords husband was on the news spouting the usual anti-gun rhetoric. Universal background checks, blah, blah, blah. He said there has been over 300 "mass shootings" in the US this year. What constitutes "mass", more than 1? The distortions and lies will flood out now.

This is something new that they've come up with. A guy on Reddit put together an Excel spreadsheet. He defined mass shooting as "any time 4 or more people are shot". The FBI definition is much narrower than that. It has to be at least four killed, not gang related, not domestic violence, not crime related (like a robbery gone bad.)

With the new definition he came up with 352 mass shootings in 2015 (versus 30 for the FBI) and how anti-gun nuts are touting that to the rooftops. Now the news media has picked up on it, and it's growing like wildfire.

I downloaded the spreadsheet and glanced at it last night. The first two were a fight at a bar and a domestic fight. Only one killed in both incidents. Definitely not mass shooting.

When people think about mass shootings they think about several things; random violence, public setting with a large crowd, automatic weapons.

Here's the site: http://shootingtracker.com/wiki/Mass_Shootings_in_2015