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mojo84 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 2:58 pm

DynamicDan wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 2:38 pm She didn't she was talking about his Tshirt. It evolved into an actual gun, like so many stories that get passed around.

Oh, so a lot of people aren't telling the truth about what she said?

MaduroBU wrote: ↑Wed Apr 24, 2019 6:53 pm It's wrong when crowds of idiots surround Cruz or McConnell at dinner and it's wrong when one idiot shows up at a Bonnen's door. Those activities are personal and outside of acceptable political discourse and should be mocked and punished as necessary.

WildRose wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2019 10:20 pm

The Annoyed Man wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2019 3:42 pm

apostate wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2019 2:41 pm

The Annoyed Man wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2019 1:59 pm I’m inclined to be suspicious of any video made by, or featuring CJ Grisham - who has only a tenuous grasp on reality.

Care to elaborate?

This appears to be DPS body cam video. So unless CJ became a DPS trooper, I'm not sure what it has to do with video exposing Dennis Bonnen and his wife as liars.

The Annoyed Man wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2019 1:59 pm I’m inclined to be suspicious of any video made by, or featuring CJ Grisham - who has only a tenuous grasp on reality. He has a history of only promoting that part which makes him look heroic, and burying those parts that make him look like a fool. It's my observation that the latter instances outnumber the former.

This particular video doesn’t show him, and it seems pretty straightforward. But as a general thing, I think that Grisham has done more harm than good for increasing the acceptance of 2nd Amendment rights by politicians.

What I meant is:

A. I am generally mistrustful of CJ Grisham because I think he is an unstable individual. He has a LONG history of placing himself at the center of controversies between police and open carry advocates, and has even broken federal law on camera (I.e. open carrying in Oklahoma subsequent to a disqualifying conviction here in Texas). His imprimatur is on the beginning of THIS video, so I was initially mistrustful when I started to watch it.

B. I ALSO said (above) that THIS video seems straightforward. In other words, it doesn’t seem like CJ's usual fare. I’m happy for that.

I’m not sure how much more elaboration is necessary. CJ's own record right here on this forum, in debates with Charles Cotton - who had done WAY MORE for the cause of the 2nd Amendment over a period of decades than CJ Grisham will ever accomplish - is the record of an excitable, not entirely stable person, not entirely grounded in reality, with little understanding of what happens in the halls of gov’t. I don’t mean that he’s hallucinating or anything like that. I mean that he has a singular view of both human nature and how the world works, which is not in sync with either reality. It comes off - to me, anyway, as well as to many others - as egomaniacal and off-putting.

You catch more flies with honey. He never learned that most fundamental of social skills; and that makes him a poor witness for the 2nd Amendment, in a world in which we need to win more allies, not make more enemies. I’m actually glad that he seemed to have taken a step back from things for a couple of years. If all he ever does going forward is to make videos like this one, then he might be able to make up for some of the damage he’s done in the past.

I hope that is enough elaboration, and yes, Bonnen DID lie.

To the Bolded, I don't believe this is at all accurate. In the Temple case with officer Ernis he was not convicted of a felony as I recall, the charges were reduced to a misdmeanor "interference with a peach officer".

Ernis was a jerk and wrong from the start in that encounter and should have lost his job with all charges being dropped completely.

That being said I don't like CJ's provocative style, it makes us all look bad.