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by zero4o3
Wed Jan 06, 2016 9:53 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: I now regret that OC passed
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Re: I now regret that OC passed

parabelum wrote:But you see what you did there, you stated that YOU will never OC, which is your prerogative, but maybe some of us will occasionally OC and if so, personally, I will adjust accordingly. But please, if you or anyone else choose to CC only, respect those of us who, on occasion, may OC.

For what it's worth, I've made my stance on OCT known.

I think the issue is that in gaining OC we lost places we could carry in any form. and on top of that instead of being happy with the fact that they can OC the people who wanted it are now being disrespectful towards places or people who are against OC which in turn is more likely to create more places no one can carry.
by zero4o3
Wed Jan 06, 2016 6:28 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: I now regret that OC passed
Replies: 142
Views: 44176

Re: I now regret that OC passed

The Annoyed Man wrote:
baldeagle wrote:All of this was predictable.
It was more than predictable. It was predicted. And it came to pass.

I don't have regrets about passage, but I DO have major regrets about people who carry and don't care what damage they do to the reputations of all of us. THAT is a huge regret.

Pride goeth before the fall.
I worry that some of those same people do far more damage than good while trying to "educate" companies that have chosen to post 30.07 /.06 recently.
by zero4o3
Wed Jan 06, 2016 6:24 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: I now regret that OC passed
Replies: 142
Views: 44176

Re: I now regret that OC passed

Unocat wrote:Don't have buyer's remorse just yet. let people settle into it. the signs will slowly come down over the next year or two.
When the crime statistics go down, when a LTC holder is a hero, when the OCT AR/AK wielders go away... things will get better.

No that new Star Wars movie - that I regret... I should have just thrown $11.50 in the toilet. :anamatedbanana
unfortunately I don't think that's how it works. Once those signs go up it will take more than crime statistics for them to come down.
by zero4o3
Wed Jan 06, 2016 6:18 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: I now regret that OC passed
Replies: 142
Views: 44176

Re: I now regret that OC passed

baldeagle wrote:It only took a week, but I'm now sorry that OC was passed. Maybe I'll change my mind after some time has passed, but right now I'm sick and tired of tons of threads complaining about signs. Before OC passed, there were ample warnings posted in this forum by many respected members that OC would change things and possibly not for the better. OC enthusiasts mocked those posts and claimed it was all based on fear and ignorance. Now that it's passed, we have multiple threads complaining about signs going up everywhere, 30.06 signs going up where none were found before, anger over signs not being legal, angry defiance over being asked to show ID when entering a business OCing.

All of this was predictable. No one should be surprised that some businesses don't allow OC. After all, licensed carriers represent less than 5% of the Texas population. Is it really ridiculous to think that at least 5% of the population might not want to see guns openly carried? That the businesses might want their business just as much as they want ours?

It was equally predictable that OC would raise awareness about proper signage, and some businesses would then decide to post both 30.06 and 30.07 signs.

In the ideal world of the gun activists (which does not exist anywhere in the world) they could carry a weapon openly into any place, and the people that don't like it would either have to shut up or leave. Apparently their rights (in their minds) trump those of every other person in the nation. In the real world, those people have an equal voice and both the police and the authorities have to listen to them and consider their complaints equally with ours.

Maybe this will all sort itself out over time, but right now it's a huge pain that has made this forum a lot less enjoyable to follow.

I have considered posting something similar the negativity and self entitlement in some of the post relating to OC have me worried things will only go down hill as companies post 30.07 and get bombarded by extremist post 30.06 then have such a damaged impression of LTC that its hard to recover.

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