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Oldgringo wrote:Furthermore, I do not have a problem with the background check either. Whether anyone wants to admit it or not, there are definitely people walking around that don't need to be carrying a gun - OC or CC. (The people I'm talking about are allowed to breed and vote and that's dangerous enough.)

No doubt, and if some more stringent requirements would cut down on the number of people getting licenses who are likely to abuse their right to carry, I wouldn't have a problem with that, either. I'm not sure what that would be --perhaps a longer course, more rigorous exam, higher proficiency?

RocTrac wrote:Most stores have a video system and I am pretty sure that he was on it. You have to think also that some of the gun grabbers will call a 22 revolver a hand cannon. I would be interested in seeing the video. As far as the 2 CCW's that kind of bothers me. It is obvious that they are interested in preserving their rights and then to describe the dude as
“Wyatt Earp, ready to draw.” I believe that there is something to this. Attitude/posture means a lot in something like this.

Witnesses, including two men who have concealed weapons permits, told police Kirby looked like “Wyatt Earp, ready to draw.” Witnesses also said he was “giving everyone the eyeball with his hand on the gun,” according to police reports.

As written, with quotation marks, this literally means that at least three people used the exact phrase quoted about Wyatt Earp and that at least two used the exact same phrase "giving everyone the eyeball with his hand on the gun." I think this is highly unlikely. There are three possibilities: 1) the police report it is quoting from is poorly written/inaccurate; 2) the article is poorly written/inaccurate; or 3) the article is deliberately deceptive.

I doubt the police report was written to attribute the exact same phrase to multiple witnesses, though obviously I can't know this. It's possible the article is just poorly written and intended to convey the general sense of the witness statements instead of attributing specific words to multiple witnesses, but I doubt that too since if that was the intent those specific phrases wouldn't have quotation marks around them.

Given the way the media usually lies, and especially how they portray guns and gun owners, my guess is that the two quoted phrases from the police report came either from a single witness or from, at most, two different witnesses. I'd also guess that while two of the witnesses have concealed weapons permits, those two particular witnesses didn't say he looked like Wyatt Earp. I think that's a verbal trick where the two men with permits is subordinate to the more general category of witnesses rather than the more specific category of witnesses who said he looked like Wyatt Earp.