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mamabearCali wrote:

VMI77 wrote:

mamabearCali wrote: That is all I can say about that. It makes me so so angry that our president is perfectly willing to throw the constitution in the toilet whenever it pleases him.

You make it sound like there are times when the Constitution is relevant to Glorious Leader: I submit there are not. Collectivists view every aspect of a free Republic as a tool to exploit in its destruction. Today's typical liberal, versus the liberals of my youth, are almost all collectivists. The old liberals actually believed in Constitutional Supremacy...I'm not talking about the "new deal" types here, but the classical liberals back in the time when liberalism meant something entirely different than it does today. To these modern collectivist liberals the Constitution is a tool for dismantling the Republic. As an example, the idea is to take something like the 1st Amendment and exploit it to gain power, and as power is gradually accumulated, dispense with parts of it that consolidate their gains.....political correctness is a prime example of this....we simply are no longer allowed to have a public discourse on certain subjects, no matter how relevant they are to the governance of the country and health of the Republic. Urban crime and illegal immigration are two almost entirely forbidden topics of discussion in public forums.

He seems very concerned about the "pneumbras and emanations" of the constitution that allow for the murder of unborn children. He seems very concerned for the commerce clause and the power to tax that is being illegitimately (IMO) used to permit him and his ilk to shove an unwanted socialist healthcare bill down our throats. So when it is convenient for him he hugs and kisses the constitution when it is not he throws it in the toilet. As a side note, I find it interesting that gun owner are being lectured on respecting life by a president that is perfectly fine with third trimester abortions.

mamabearCali wrote: That is all I can say about that. It makes me so so angry that our president is perfectly willing to throw the constitution in the toilet whenever it pleases him.

canvasbck wrote:My question is, where is our line in the sand? Will our response be to post nasty things on internet message boards and Facebook? They are shaking in their boots at that prospect. [/sarcasm]

I believe that this legislation has a chance at passing, what then? What is likely to happen is.....nothing. This will ultimately be a repeat of the Clinton gun ban, we will whine and moan, and comply. This one, however, goes much further by making POSSESSION of these weapons illegal. Mark my words, your weapons won't be grandfathered, the fact that you possessed them prior to the law's enactment will be grandfathered. Possession after passage will be an illegal act, regardless of when you purchased the weapon.

We, as a society have lost the nerve to stand up to our government and say NO, WE WILL NOT ALLOW THIS! The left is smart enough to not ban all firearms in one sweeping peice of legislation, they choose to be more "progressive". This will prevent them from having a massive pushback from we the people. We, collectively, will succomb to the total destruction of the second amendment with only a few people, who will be labled as crazy extremists, actually taking a stand for their rights. In the end, each country gets the government that they deserve, welome to Amerika.

RPB wrote:She means

Grandfathered to a point
you can own what you got, they won't knock on your door to get yours now
but when you die, the government owns it, not whoever you'd leave it to
you own it, you can't gift, transfer, donate or sell to anyone
you can't buy more

((((Lots of trusts/corporations or other legal entities will soon own guns that people used to own..., they don't die, trustees/corporate officers etc just change... I'd think, just guessing, a face to face sale of personal property to a corporation/trust might not require FFL record like face to face person to person of a dishwasher))

I sold it to some company ... I forget the name, I met the Company Rep behind Jack in the Box before dinner one night in September, I remember it hadn't snowed yet that year and there was a dog ... I think the dog ate the receipt or my homework or something