I'm no lawyer, but I believe that for a threat to be actionable it has to be specific. I don't think saying I'd use a gun to protect my child rises to that level. Now if she said to whomever, if you don't do what I'm telling you to do to protect my child I'm going to kill you...that would be a threat.Cedar Park Dad wrote:RoyGBiv wrote:Additional details slowly emerging... Still looking for corroboration...
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I am told several McBean Elementary teachers and parent volunteers alike were on their last nerve with Mrs. Mount, describing her as “domineering,” “demanding,” “obsessive,” “unreasonable” and “a menace.”
Principal Dallas reportedly had several intense discussions with Mount, explaining that if she did not back off and cut down on the time she spent “volunteering” at the school, she would be forced to require her to do so. This was not one conversation, but several, spanning over the course of several weeks.
During Mount’s vehement defense of her actions at school, she apparently emphasized concerns that her special needs daughter needed to be “protected” from bullies. It was at this point the Concealed Weapons Permit was mentioned, along with her willingness to use it to “protect her child.” Shortly after that discussion, in which Dallas condemned the talk of firearms as a possible defense, Mount posted the picture of her CWP on Facebook.
The post was apparently the straw that broke the camel’s back. Dallas was concerned enough about her tone and her reportedly “aggressive nature” to seek the ban from the school.
Ayah, if true that sounds like a threat.
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- Fri Nov 08, 2013 5:04 pm
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- Thu Nov 07, 2013 10:36 am
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We haven't heard anything...just the usual non-denial denial. The parent may have been in the wrong but you can't tell from what the principal said because all she did was deflect. "Unspecific comments of a threatening nature".......that's a nonsense statement. Threatening nature = not a threat. "Unspecific comments" = nothing they can quote that sounds threatening. This is the way bureaucrats speak when their authority is challenged or someone attempts to hold them accountable for their actions. The "threat" is accountability. When people talk like lying bureaucrats using weasel words I'm not inclined to believe them. That said, we still don't know the whole story, and the principal's weasel words shed no additional light.G30 wrote:From the local News Channel WRDW,Augusta, GA on 6 Nov 13;
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While at first denying our request for an interview, Principal Janine Dallas agreed to talk by phone about why Mount was banned from the school.
"Mount was not following procedures that we have in place for the role of parent volunteers," Dallas said.
She declined to elaborate, and said it was not about the Facebook picture.
"It is not a personal attack on her and it has absolutely nothing to do with her Georgia license," Dallas said.
The principal claims Mount made some unspecific comments of a threatening nature toward a staff member. Dallas said she called the Board of Education Police which issued Mount the trespass warning.
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IMHO, we have now heard Principal Dallas's side of the story. Just maybe the Vet/Gun was hyped by the social media, before hearing both sides of the story. With the Media's recent knee-jerk assumption on the many different active-shooter incidents, I'm not to surprise to see the Vet/permit media frenzy.
If the Principal and staff members can validate their statements, then Ms. Mount might have to more honest about the whole situation.
Granted the amazing amount of irrational policies from our Education System is staggering beyond belief. I would caution on blaming the "system" until both sides of the story are validated.
If Ms. Mount was violating or abusing the parent volunteer program, she should have been counseled and later removed from the program for future violations. If Ms. Mount refused to comply, there might have been some "heated" words from Ms. Mount, which might have been considered to be threatening to the Principal and staff members.
I haven't heard any statement(s) that the principal or BoE Police based their CT warning strictly on her Vet status or CC permit only from the social media. From reading the story, I gather that when the BoE Police asked about her Vet/CC permit, the Warning was already issued prior to the BoE Police questions. If that was the case, the Q&A session had no bearing on the outcome of the Warning being issued in the first place.
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BTW, according to the news reports, the principal changed her story after the incident gained national attention:
http://www.wjbf.com/story/23845263/rich ... 1481237582
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News Channel 6's Tyrone McCoy asks McBean Elementary Principal, Janina Dallas "was the no trespass order issued because of the facebook post? Principal: yes it was."
The principal says with the rash of school shootings, coupled with Mount's comments and the permit, it was cause for alarm.
- Wed Nov 06, 2013 10:55 am
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Re: Mother/Vet refused entry to school for CHL on Facebook
People who allow their children to be indoctrinated in State worship and obedience by the public schools are asking for trouble, and sometimes they get it.