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Looks to me like lack of will in action as well. The video of the assault has the "news" readers saying the police are storming the cafe. But looking at the video I don't see much in the way of "storming." Looks to me like four or five guys standing in the doorway shooting into the cafe and tossing in an occasional stun grenade. Seems to me that the Aussie cops are impressively armed and not impressively deployed.

Charlies.Contingency wrote:

philip964 wrote:Terrorist dead. One hostage may have died several wounded.

I saw that too. Have you seen anything regarding to what the terrorist was armed with? I recall a report of shots being fired, but I didn't see anything about whether or not it was just the police shooting, or if the terrorist was armed with a firearm as well.

I read one article that said pump shotgun, but in a nation awash with even more ignorant anti-gun "journalists" than ours, who knows?

anygunanywhere wrote:

TheArmedFarmer wrote:I'm acquainted with a good number of Australians and they all seem to be universally proud of the fact that they "don't have to have guns" because their country is so safe. This terrible event will certainly cause a re-evaluation of that thought process.

Sorry, but no it will not. If it did most Americans would be armed to the teeth in public every day.

Yeah, when I read one article saying he had a pump shotgun I thought, haven't those been banned already? Then I thought, if pump shotguns aren't banned yet they will be now.

The level of safety in Australia, whatever it may be, has little to nothing to do with guns, and just about everything to do with culture and demographics. But the fact is, crime took off there after their gun ban.