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by VMI77
Mon Oct 05, 2015 4:45 pm
Forum: New to CHL?
Topic: When to defend?
Replies: 52
Views: 13370

Re: When to defend?

kopking10 wrote:
Abraham wrote:kopking10,

You posted: "Her idea was, if you have a gun, the robber sees you with a gun would most likely shoot you."

Please tell me if this is you or your wife's perspective: You're depending on the robber's kindness/reasonableness to do you no harm if you remain defenseless?

Do I have that right?
It's her opinion. And it make sense, No? If you read the Oregon shooting news, the shooter asked the students if they are Christian or not. If they are, he shoots. Relating to that, the shooter is looking for something that he could target. In this case, when he sees a gun, he will shoot.
If you have a concealed gun and you're in a room with several other people as was the case in Oregon what makes you think the shooter is going to see your gun before he hears it?

In general, what makes you think an attacker needs a gun to kill you or do you serious bodily harm? A baseball bat, 2x4, pipe, piece of rebar, or a knife can make you just as dead as a gun. You can be killed by a fist with a hard enough blow to the head. And how about if you're not confronting just one attacker, but three or five with sharpened screwdrivers?

And yes, having a gun cannot prevent all attacks from being successful. Even LEOs get ambushed but most attacks aren't from ambush. Safety requires preparedness and situational awareness whether you have a gun or not, and even then, safety is not absolute.
by VMI77
Mon Oct 05, 2015 1:44 pm
Forum: New to CHL?
Topic: When to defend?
Replies: 52
Views: 13370

Re: When to defend?

ShootDontTalk wrote:I'm always intrigued when people declare their home a "gun free zone." Might I ask you a little about that?

1) You probably have a kitchen? Do you have knives? Specifically carving knives? Steak knives?

2) While in your kitchen, (and here I'm not going to be specific) you have certain household cleaning items under the sink? You probably have some liquids you cook with in your pantry?

3) Do you like to play softball? Own a bat?

4) Have a fireplace and a little rack of tools beside it to manipulate the fire?

5) Do you have a hammer and/or screwdriver and/or needle-nose pliers for fixing things?

6) Do you own a ballpoint pen?

7) I assume you own some form of vehicle?

I could go on for quite a while. If you have EVEN ONE of the items I listed above in your home, you have some of the most lethal weapons on earth in your daily life. You should correct that oversight immediately. On the other hand, you probably don't think of those items in terms of lethal weapons. You see, the real lethal weapon is the human that wields it, not the weapon itself.

Here's a tip: avoiding the threat is good and desirable as long as there is a place to retreat, AND you are the only one involved. When those two conditions are not met is when push comes to shove and you need a reliable, lethal response.
Not only that, but unless all those knives, tools, and bats are kept locked up, you have readily available weapons that an intruder may use against you.

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