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K.Mooneyham wrote:

The Wall wrote:All of my sidearms have retention holsters. They are all OWB with thumb breaks also. Just my preference as is concealed carry. Going to be nice not to worry about printing or accidental exposure.

There is nothing in penal code about printing, so I won't speak to that. However, even though accidental exposure was supposed to be made "null and void" as a thing by the bill passed during the previous legislative session in 2013, there was still an idea out there that you could end up "taking the ride", even if you didn't end up charged. Now, no one could produce any evidence that had happened, or at least happened very often, but the feeling remained that it could happen, and no one wanted to be "the test case", as folks here like to say. Adding permitted OC removes that doubt unless someone carries into an area where it is specifically prohibited to OC, such as past a 30.07 sign, and that is the individual's responsibility. I know TAM has quite successfully carried concealed OWB for some time now, as he stated above, but many just never felt comfortable doing so. I think that will change, even if a lot of folks won't carry in a fully open manner all the time.

The Annoyed Man wrote:

ScottDLS wrote:

VMI77 wrote:
I've lost track since the OC law passed and the discussion started....is a retention device required by law for OC?

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No. You simply must carry in a Belt Holster or Shoulder Holster.

Scott's correct. I am using a retention holster as a sop to the possibilities and to public attitudes, but as I said, I'm not going whole hog. A simple thumb-snap or similar level of retention is more than adequate for my purposes. I am normally perfectly comfortable with a simple leather holster without retention device and have been carrying that way for years.

I have found.....at least with the thumb-snap holster I bought for the G17, that it doesn't really slow down my draw and my thumb goes to the snap instinctively.

The Annoyed Man wrote:I have carried OWB for years now, for everything from XDS/G43/PM9 sized pistols, to full-sized 1911s and G17s; so the transition from CC to OC isn't that big of a deal for me in sartorial terms. What it means is that, barring a blasted hot "day in hades" summer day, I'll probably still wear an unbuttoned cover garment (typically a light, short-sleeved collared shirt) and not worry if the gun is visible or not. That way, if concealment is required where a 30.07 is posted, I'll just button the cover garment and walk right in.

My concession to OC is to purchase retention holsters for those guns I might open carry. But I'm not going crazy with nth-level top-secret super-tactical operator gear. A simple thumb-snap leather holster is sufficient for me, as is any synthetic holster that requires a serious enough tug on the gun to know that it can't be easily swiped, as well as (and this is critically important whether you OC or CC) maintaining a sufficient level of situational awareness when I am out and about.

Without situational awareness, it doesn't matter what you carry, how you carry it, or what you carry it in. That, and a due regard for the sensibilities of people around me, will be the determining factors for me.