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by Liberty
Fri Sep 28, 2007 6:15 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Would you "open carry"?
Replies: 163
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frankie_the_yankee wrote:
KBCraig wrote: Fair enough. He mentioned New Hampshire specificially, which is the only OC state I've actually stopped in for anything longer than gas and food, and in the week I spent there in 2006, I saw at least two or three dozen people open carrying. Granted, this was in Lancaster, not Nashua, and some of them were hiking. Others were shopping, or just hanging around the campground.
Lancaster is a small town with a population of around 4000. I wouldn't characterize it as an urban center.

I lived in New England for 50 years and visited NH dozens of times. I've never seen a living soul carrying openly. But I believe your report anyway. I can see that in the smaller towns there might be people OC'ing.

I have seen a video of a person in either Nashua or Manchester (don't remember which) being harrassed by the police because he was openly carrying. My guess is that it is not too common in the larger cities. Otherwise, the police would be more familiar with the law.
I open carried a few times in Massachusetts. Open or concealed carry there was legal long before it was legal here.
by Liberty
Thu Sep 27, 2007 7:50 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Would you "open carry"?
Replies: 163
Views: 23752

frankie_the_yankee wrote:
flintknapper wrote:Friend, aren't we just going to end up right back here:

(only with a different audience)?
Of course.

But when you or others tell me that snatching is not a problem in urban areas because we never hear of it, I must point out that the argument is a red herring. The reason we never hear of it is because almost no one carrys openly in urban areas. I've travelled pretty extensively and I've only seen two people (not counting myself) carrying openly who were not LEO. One was in a shopping mall in Phoenix around 8 or 9 years ago. The other was in Brattleboro, VT around 30 years ago. (Note that Brattleboro is not exactly an urban area.)

So I'm still waiting for someone to tell me how many non-LEO's they have seen openly carrying in urban environments, or to admit that practically no one does it.

The issue is germain to the overall wisdom of carrying in that (urban) environment, and yet I never get an answer.

To me, it is evident that in some fairly common circumstances a snatch would be easy to execute. Common sense tells us that if something is easy, someone will try it because they will have a high expectation of success. Urban areas are places where people gather. So there is a greater probability of a BG being nearby in an urban area than in a rural area.

It's pretty simple really.
You must go to different places in Arizona than I do. I've literally seen them check the handguns at the bar. I see open carry in Tuscon, Phoenix, and Scottsdale. and thats not even counting seeing myself in the mirror. While I would agree that not everyone is carrying, not even most people are carrying. But they really do carry in the open in Arizona. while I haven't spent a lot of time in New Mexico, It seems every time I stop for gas and eat in Los Cruzes to eat and gass up I see some good ole boy with a sidarm on his hip. I've noticed a couple on the dash while driving I-10 also. Its a wierd New Mexican habit.
by Liberty
Thu Sep 27, 2007 6:08 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Would you "open carry"?
Replies: 163
Views: 23752

While my initial reaction is to say "No, I won't open carry" However I might prefer at times to carry my full sized Ruger in the Open if I were hiking or something. On a Long drive I might unholster for a while and set the handgun on the passanger seat. instead of the console.

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