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tbranch wrote:

Skiprr wrote:We all might as well stay home, sit on the couch, and watch TV. Why make the effort to get in the car and go out and vote?

Skip,

It's so important that we all go out and vote rather than staying home because we think the election is already over. While the Democrats have registered millions of new voters, a good percentage will not make it to the polls. I agree that Texas will not likely go to BHO, but in the swing states it could make a real difference.

Tom

I believe a more important reason to get out and vote is because of county and state offices, these guys typically effect us more in our day to day lives Than the president will.

Skiprr wrote:
A vote for Barr or Paul is asinine. If you do so, you're casting your valuable Second Amendment vote into the wind.

We have two choices, Obama or McCain. Any vote for other than one of these two candidates does dilute the vote. The odds are absolutely zero that an independent candidate will win the presidency. And sending a "message" by vote should have been done during nominations, not on November 4.

The Electoral College (almost) always follows the popular vote within a given state. In 2000, New Mexico declared for Al Gore with less than a 1,000 popular-vote margin. Scary, huh?

Texas is not in the bag.


But heck, the polls show that Obama will win handily. A single, individual vote really doesn't count for anything, does it?

A vote for Bob Barr or Ron Paul? What difference does it make?

We all might as well stay home, sit on the couch, and watch TV.

Why make the effort to get in the car and go out and vote?

I don't know where you are getting your information but all polls indicate that McCain has Texas in the bag. The latest poll Shows McCain at 57% and Obama at 38%. I concider 20% margin 3 weeks before the election "in the bag" Any suggestion that McCain could lose Texas because a few voters actually vote Libertarian or Constitution party is pure nonsense. We, the believers in real freedom, deserve to be heard . The Republican party doesn't represent us anymore and they need to understand that some of us have had enough and that when they give us Guys like John McCain we will no longer support them. They will just continue to feed as garbage as long as we continue and accept their garbage.

Charles L. Cotton wrote:

KBCraig wrote:

Charles L. Cotton wrote:Obama supporters aren't about to vote for Bob Barr! The only people who will vote for Bob Barr are strong conservatives.

Barr is the nominee of the Libertarian Party. The LP membership comes slightly more from a Democrat background, than Republican.

It's absolutely incorrect to say that no one will be voting for Barr instead of Obama; I know quite a few people who would vote for Obama (or against McCain) if there was no LP candidate.

Are you telling us that Libertarians support Obama? Say what you wish, but I'm not buying it. I guess you and I will have to agree to disagree on this one. I haven't heard one Obama supporter saying they're switched their votes to Barr, but I've heard a few conservatives saying just that.

Chas.

It is also absurd to claim that Barr posses any threat to McCain winning all the electoral votes in Texas. Those who wish to vote for the true RKBA party and candidate should feel free to vote with their conscience and not worry that that Obama is going to walk away with any Texan Electoral College votes.. Voting for McCain will tell the Republican party that we approved of the candidate they foisted upon us. If someone really likes McCain and feels he is a good candidate they should vote for McCain. But there is no reason to vote for this guy if you really don't believe in him. Texas ain't gonna vote for Obama no way will it even be close. Even Obama and McCain know it so they aren't wasting any energy and money campaining here. They know its all sewn up.

Skiprr wrote:Sorry, Nitro. On this we disagree.

A vote for Barr is a vote for Obama.

Obama is absolutely the most anti-gun president we could elect.

We have two choices: Obama or McCain. If you don't vote McCain, you're voting Obama.

I'm not saying that's the way it should be, or the way the Founders thought it would be. But we have a two-party electorate.

You vote "Barr," and Obama chuckles all the way to the bank...

That simply isn't true. While most of us understand that Obama is the worst of a terrible choice. The presidential election is about electoral Votes. Winner Take all. History and all polls indicate Texas will go overwhelmingly in Favor of Mc Cain and Palin. A few percentage votes though will make a clear statement to the Republican party that there are people who do not approve of the the candidate they have given us. There were several Republicans running for the office and they chose the worst they could think of to run up against a strong Democratic Candidate. It is time to wake up and realize that the Republicans have turned into Democrats and as long as they believe that conservatives have no other choice but to vote for them. We will continue get the quality of candidates that we have this year.

Things worth remembering when we go to Vote:
McCain is not pro 2nd Amendment He is in favor of :

McCain favors outlawing cheaply made handguns called Saturday night specials, and favors mandating safety locks on certain guns. He said he is intrigued by new technology that electronically identifies a person handling a gun, allowing only the owner to fire it. McCain rallied Senate Republicans behind a Democratic measure requiring background checks at gun shows.

Supports ban on certain assault weapons


McCain was Co-sponser of Mcain Fiengold which would ban newspars tv or internet forums and blogs from speaking about presidential race candidates or issues. It also would limit organizations from speaking up or supporting issues, The NTRA Fer Instance.

While the Republicans had control of the House the Senate and the White,.. They even out did the Democrats while they held the whole hat trick under Clinton with Pork and spending.

While the Dems and Republicans and McCain and Obama play the blame game McCain was one of the Keaton 5,

Go ahead and vote for the only candidate who truly is the only candidate that supports the RKBA unconditionally. Obama isn't going to win in Texas, but maybe just maybe, someone will understand that some of us in Texas just aren't happy with the dish that the Republican party has served us. And maybe this time our votes might actually mean something.