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WildBill wrote:

roman3667 wrote:Wow. Censoring members opinions on a pro gun forum??? Very interesting. I always thought that a healthy debate was good for reasoning. Makes me uncomfortable if folks are not allowed to discuss a topic like our government. Unless of course there is a policy or rule forbidding controversial topics.

Rule 9. Blatant, global, or rampant law enforcement bashing is prohibited. Discussions of specific identifiable events presented factually are fine.

Most gunowners or gun owning advocates don't think of the BATFE as a normal LEO, I believe it is fair top say that most of us believe most state and local LEO are the good guys who are out to protect us good citizens. I don't believe that hardly any of us can accept that the BATF is looking out for us or are in anyway out to protect us. They are more of a threat to our way of life and freedom than bad guys. Even if we follow the law to the letter they keep trying to find ways of either making criminals of us or to make our every day activities.

To my knowledge their has never been any censorship on bashing the the BATFE on this forum, although one mod seemed to indicate we shouldn't. I opened the thread a couple of weeks ago to clarify the issue or at least discuss it. THe moderators and the owner of the board never responded to my post, so I assume its OK to trash the BATFE on this board. although I do believe we shouldn't make make slanderous or libelous statements especially about individuals. Generalized statements about the uselessness and recognizing them as the enemy seems only appropriate.

We got politely chastised on another sub forum, and I am trying to figure out what we did wrong! and maybe clarify the rules, so it might be a a little clearer and we can avoid the misunderstandings. It was in a thread about the BATFE seemingly overstepping their bounds. I would have thought that the BATFE would be fair game. As long as the agents and employee

CompVest wrote:I didn't have any issues with rants that were about the action s in the OP. However, the rants I was referring to included name calling and generalizations about a whole department and that is wanted on our Forum.

This is the BATFE? We would be hard pressed to to find many on this this group that doesn't loath the very existence of them. Are we restricted from bad mouthing Nazi's, Communist and other deniers of civil rights too? or is it just this thread? I believe it is a fair statement, noninflamatory and not particularly profound to state that the BATFE is an overzealous, waste of money and manpower, unnecessary, and probably completely out of bounds of our constitution. Bad mouthing these folks don't seem to be breaking or stretching the rules. It is on topic because the original posts was about over zealous actions of the BATFE, calling the BATFE out as a department should be be considered controversial on this site because they are almost all universally hated by every freedom loving gun owner. and I have never ever seen a BATFE fan once not ever.

Is just the BATFE or is it every government or department, that we aren't allowed to speak badly of? While I am sure there are some worthy of badmouthing I doubt there is one anywhere more worthy than the BATFE.

I'm not trying to be argumentative, but just trying to understand the boundries and the limits to which we are to respect. It is just that I always thought it was pretty much understood that that the BATFE is not a friend to us gun owners, and I'm confused on why we can't state that on the the forums.