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Gator Guy wrote: ↑Sat Nov 17, 2018 10:58 am

Liberty wrote: ↑Sat Nov 17, 2018 10:32 amI just can't see this incident as anything but a holster failure, that is associated with the type of weapon being carried.

Unless the holster failed mechanically by falling apart, a holster failure that allows access to the trigger is ultimately human error by the person who chose to carry that particular gun in that particular holster.

You are correct of course. I was contrasting the failure to a firearm failure, I don't believe that this incident was a result of a firearm failure. It looks to me that the sheriff is attempting to deflect the blame from the deputy.

Deleted stupid double post.

Excaliber wrote: ↑Sat Nov 17, 2018 9:36 am

Abraham wrote: ↑Fri Nov 16, 2018 10:13 am Glock is not the sole firearm with no button type safety. Just press the trigger and it goes boom if you have a round chambered. There are many similar models and also can be fired with a round in the chamber with the magazine out.

2 examples of similar type actions to a Glock: Smith & Wesson SD9VE and Ruger LC9S and others - no button or lever - both 9mm.

So, could the 'banned by the department firearm' be a Glock? Sure, but as I pointed out, there are many other models on the market with precisely the same actions...

Almost every revolver out there also meets the no manual safety criterion.

Holster selection with a striker fired weapon is a more critical consideration than with a traditional hammer fired weapon. I am making a guess what happened from my observation of the video and the sheriff's statements.

Modern handguns don't just go off by themselves. There are a few when subjected to a shock or drop that could cause an accidental firing, but the deputy didn't look like he fell or ran into anything that would cause such a shock. He was running through brush, wearing an ankle holster. The only thing that makes sense is that something activated the trigger while he was running. The only thing I can think of is that the pistol rose up in his holster, a twig or branch got under his trigger guard and caused the shoot. This simply could not happen with a more traditional DA/SA equipped with a manual safety or 1911 based weapon. It would be very unlikely to happen to a properly holstered retained strike fired weapon either.

The sheriff might be trying to protect his deputy, by blaming a rash of Glockleg as a gun failure. I just can't see this incident as anything but a holster failure, that is associated with the type of weapon being carried.

The Annoyed Man wrote: ↑Sat Nov 17, 2018 12:44 am As I recall, it was either the P320 or the P365 that had failed drop tests soon after it’s release - and there was a big stink about it in the gun world. Maybe he had one of those, and he banged the back of the slide into a post or something as he was climbing through the fence? Who knows.

I will put money on it the holster was a piece of cap and had poor retention, that the gun was a striker fired with no mechanical safety.

This could be a candidate for a new medical condition called Glock foot.