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03Lightningrocks wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 8:38 pm

philip964 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 8:29 pm This was posted by a Facebook friend ( very liberal ) she says her friend posted it.

Facebook of course said below it that all vaccines are completely safe and tested.

OH MY!!

I would believe even CNN before I accepted as fact something posted on Facebook by a friend of a friend with leftist ties.

Just sayin'

philip964 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 4:52 pm https://abc7.com/health/couple-under-ho ... 9/6323759/

KT couple under house arrest for not signing a paper after wife tested positive with no symptoms.

and this is why no one should allow themselves to get tested unless there is a very good reason.

srothstein wrote: ↑Mon Apr 20, 2020 11:06 am And just so everyone is clear, the price for WTI crude is down to 10/bbl. The price for Brent crude is still in the 22/bbl range. I am not as clear on the differences between the two as I would be if I were investing in them, but I know there are chemical differences between the two. I believe that one is better for gasoline while the other is better for certain other petroleum products though i could be wrong on that.

The biggest difference is who is set up to receive it and to process it ... I think Brent is a lighter cleaner (less sulpher) oil, but I'm not too sure

03Lightningrocks wrote: ↑Mon Apr 20, 2020 10:15 am

Rafe wrote: ↑Mon Apr 20, 2020 10:12 am It was big news 15 hours ago that oil had hit $15 a barrel for the 1st time in 21 years. Now it's touched $11 a barrel. The website https://oilprice.com/ is currently timing out due to all the traffic hitting it. The price of oil and the bottom having dropped out of demand globally is the economic double-whammy hitting Texas.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-glob ... SKBN2221TShttps://www.investors.com/market-trend/ ... tech-rise/

Still dropping. It is at 10.05 a barrel now.

Such a bargain, but nowhere to store it. All the Tanks are full.

Most of us have trouble making sense of a lot of numbers at the same time..


This is a chart of new cases in Texas from March 4th to April 19th.
my website has charts for Harris and Galveston Counties.

Yes......the forever changing protocol.....

For those that are still confused, let me help spell it out for you....

The Corona Rules:
1. Basically, you can't leave the house for any reason, but if you have to, then you can.
2. Masks are useless, but maybe you have to wear one, it can save you, it is useless, but maybe it is mandatory as well.
3. Stores are closed, except those that are open.
4. You should not go to hospitals unless you have to go there. Same applies to doctors, you should only go there in case of emergency, provided you are not too sick.
5. This virus is deadly but still not too scary, except that sometimes it actually leads to a global disaster.
6. Gloves won't help, but they can still help.
7. Everyone needs to stay HOME, but it's important to GO OUT.
8. There is no shortage of groceries in the supermarket, but there are many things missing when you go there in the evening, but not in the morning. Sometimes.
9. The virus has no effect on children except those it affects.
10. Animals are not affected, but there is still a cat that tested positive in Belgium in February when no one had been tested, plus a few tigers here and there…
11. You will have many symptoms when you are sick, but you can also get sick without symptoms, have symptoms without being sick, or be contagious without having symptoms. Oh, my..
12. In order not to get sick, you have to eat well and exercise, but eat whatever you have on hand and it's better not to go out, well, but no…
13. It's better to get some fresh air, but you get looked at very wrong when you get some fresh air, and most importantly, you don't go to parks or walk. But don’t sit down, except that you can do that now if you are old, but not for too long or if you are pregnant (but not too old).
14. You can't go to retirement homes, but you have to take care of the elderly and bring food and medication.
15. If you are sick, you can't go out, but you can go to the pharmacy.
16. You can get restaurant food delivered to the house, which may have been prepared by people who didn't wear masks or gloves. But you have to have your groceries decontaminated outside for 3 hours. Pizza too?
17. Every disturbing article or disturbing interview starts with " I don't want to trigger panic, but…"
18. You can't see your older mother or grandmother, but you can take a taxi and meet an older taxi driver.
19. You can walk around with a friend but not with your family if they don't live under the same roof.
20. You are safe if you maintain the appropriate social distance, but you can’t go out with friends or strangers at the safe social distance.
21. The virus remains active on different surfaces for two hours, no, four, no, six, no, we didn't say hours, maybe days? But it takes a damp environment. Oh no, not necessarily.
22. The virus stays in the air - well no, or yes, maybe, especially in a closed room, in one hour a sick person can infect ten, so if it falls, all our children were already infected at school before it was closed. But remember, if you stay at the recommended social distance, however in certain circumstances you should maintain a greater distance, which, studies show, the virus can travel further, maybe.
23. We count the number of deaths but we don't know how many people are infected as we have only tested so far those who were "almost dead" to find out if that's what they will die of…
24. We have no treatment, except that there may be one that apparently is not dangerous unless you take too much (which is the case with all medications).
25. We should stay locked up until the virus disappears, but it will only disappear if we achieve collective immunity, so when it circulates… but we must no longer be locked up for that?

Chaparral wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 8:39 pm

Liberty wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 8:10 pm

striker55 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:23 pm People don't get it, whole families going to Walmart, mom dad and kids. Just one adult should go. Galveston beaches being closed because people aren't smart enough to stay home. NYC kids out playing basketball. Houston area has 997 cases when just a few days ago the number was around 300. Stay home!

I think closing the beaches in Galveston was unnecessary. I was out on the beaches yesterday before the surprise closure order. There were very few people. People weren't just obeying the 6 ft rule, they were following a 200-yard social distancing rule. A walk on a near-empty beach is pretty harmless and has done my mental health a lot of good. I think that City just hates seeing people enjoying themselves and was looking for a way to take a little bit of joy from people's lives. City is run by restaurant mafia and is butthurt cause the county shut down the restaurants.

Just guessing, but maybe closing the beaches was more of an attempt at keeping people from more infected areas from coming into Galveston - removing a temptation for those considering Galveston as a travel/vacation destination?

I wasn't at all the beaches, but I was at Stuart at about 10-11 am, I saw about 4 people at a mile of beach. Was down at East beach a few days ago I didn't see anyone, but it was during the week. I don't think the beach is drawing in a lot of outsiders. It just seems to me that a quiet beach is a lot safer than the buses that are still running.

striker55 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:23 pm People don't get it, whole families going to Walmart, mom dad and kids. Just one adult should go. Galveston beaches being closed because people aren't smart enough to stay home. NYC kids out playing basketball. Houston area has 997 cases when just a few days ago the number was around 300. Stay home!

I think closing the beaches in Galveston was unnecessary. I was out on the beaches yesterday before the surprise closure order. There were very few people. People weren't just obeying the 6 ft rule, they were following a 200-yard social distancing rule. A walk on a near-empty beach is pretty harmless and has done my mental health a lot of good. I think that City just hates seeing people enjoying themselves and was looking for a way to take a little bit of joy from people's lives. City is run by restaurant mafia and is butthurt cause the county shut down the restaurants.

03Lightningrocks wrote: ↑Fri Mar 27, 2020 2:36 am
I think he has been terrorized by MSM, to be honest. Who knows if he exaggerated or if his brother did? IMHO, this whole deal is blown out of shape. There are stories of refrigeration trucks outside NEW York hospitals to hold the dead but the number of deaths in New York don't really add up to such a need. New York Governor was on TV a little while back crying that New York needed 40 billion dollars! That is OUR money these greedy leftists are after. New York brought this thing on itself. Their officials were actually on the media telling people to go out and mingle in Feb. Now they are crying that President Trump somehow failed them. Disgusting!

Di Blasio reminds me of Mussolini, Fighting the lost war, but at least the trains are running on time.

Rafe wrote: ↑Tue Mar 24, 2020 11:54 am
In other news, New York governor Mario Cuomo holds a lengthy press release this morning where he announced that the state will need not 110,000 hospital beds as previously projected, but 150,000, and that the prediction is the state will need 30,000 ventilators but has only a fraction of that. And that the peak requirement will come sooner than expected, in 14 to 21 days. Cuomo laid into President Trump for not invoking the Defense Production Act immediately in order to force companies to drop what they're doing, retool, and work 24/7 on building ventilators.

Then he contradicts himself by saying that these are complex pieces of equipment that take over 10 days to manufacture, and that New York will need a minimum of two weeks to get them deployed. Wait. Somehow 10 days plus 14 days equals 14 days? I'm confused.

His big push was for federal ventilator supplies. He said the feds have 20,000 ventilators in inventory, but that all HHS recently sent to New York was just over 400. He said New York state was the "canary in a coal mine" in this situation. That they were the epicenter of infection and will peak at a far faster rate than any other state and have far more need of ventilators. Therefore, his demand to President Trump was that all 20,000 ventilators in federal inventory be sent immediately to New York.

All. As in every single ventilator in federal government control. Right now. But Cuomo did promise to send the ventilators along to other states once New York is done with them.

Coumo or DiBlasio could have put some pretty good brakes on the WU-Flu if he would have shut down the fetid petri dishes public transit. It amazes me that they allow these human sardine cans to still be in operational.

Let me see if I understand how this works. Suppose a guy gets HIV in the 80s. Turns into full blown AIDS when the guy is in the 90's and is pretty sick. He catches the Corona Virus, so the media reports that another is added to the Corona Death statistics.

But what really kills such a person? HIV, Old age or Corona?

Excaliber wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 1:39 pm New advisory from the CDC:

If you're over 60 or have an underlying health condition, stock up on what you'll need for an undefined period of time and don't go out.

Article here

I don't remember them saying that about the seasonal flu.

That's crazy!! I'm not locking myself in my house for an indefinite period, just to avoid a cold. When Trump, Biden and Bernie decide to stay locked up at home, I might consider it!!

If you call into your doctor and tell them you have mild or moderate flu symptoms, they tell you to stay home get rest maybe offer a Z-PAK and tell you to go to the hospital if it gets real bad. No testing no confirmation no adding you to the statistics. People are going to try to avoid an extended quarantine. We have can't stop the flu or cold spreading each year.

suthdj wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 5:47 pm

strogg wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 5:42 pm

Liberty wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 5:14 pm Can the government enforce legal restrictions on a citizen's movements? Demanding quarantine, without trial without a court order, Sounds an awful lot like red flag orders and unconstitutional.

https://www.cdc.gov/quarantine/aboutlaw ... ation.html

Papa tiger called it
"The federal government derives its authority for isolation and quarantine from the Commerce Clause of the U.S. Constitution"

But none of this addresses being forcibly held against one's will without a court order and trial by jury. We have a 4th and 4th amendment.

Can the government enforce legal restrictions on a citizen's movements? Demanding quarantine, without trial without a court order, Sounds an awful lot like red flag orders and unconstitutional.