Tact i think you hit the nail on the head.
We are moving further from the issue. As the OP the question asked is am i legal to carry in the parts of the building (note they have different physical addresses, but are part of the same building) that have a different address from the one with the posting. Basically, 3 suits of a single building, my company operates in all 3, 2 are owned by another company but operate here. Part of the building owned by the other company has a compliant sign. Can i still legally carry in the other parts of the building?
BTW Thanks for all the responses so far!
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- Sat Oct 09, 2010 10:33 pm
- Forum: New to CHL?
- Topic: Legal Carry in this situation? (work)
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- Fri Oct 08, 2010 10:43 pm
- Forum: New to CHL?
- Topic: Legal Carry in this situation? (work)
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Re: Legal Carry in this situation? (work)
The nature of my work is domestic violence: The location in question is dedicated to counceling the abuser (as opposed to the victim) Means clients are generaly court ordered to be there, in many cases these individuals have protective orders against them, so they cant have a weapon period. The others, some 15% are voluntary (repeat) or family forced. But putting a weapon (that i dont control) in a room w/ 30 known violent people generally does not settle well on my mind.
The sign could easily be modified to be non compliant, and the affected clients would not be any the wiser. The same result could be had by adding a 30.06 disclaimer in the paperwork they sign and agree to.
The sign could easily be modified to be non compliant, and the affected clients would not be any the wiser. The same result could be had by adding a 30.06 disclaimer in the paperwork they sign and agree to.
Uh, if i see any of you at my work, you would be best to turnin your CHL.dicion wrote:By god man, don't exclude all of us just because of one moron
- Fri Oct 08, 2010 9:07 pm
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Re: Legal Carry in this situation? (work)
The 30.06 sign is posted on the side owned by the hospital, but the hospital ownership is not really an issue. No hospital staff or activities take place there.
Yes the sign is compliant...I put it up in response to an incident at our location with the clientel that walk through that door exclusively.
Yes the sign is compliant...I put it up in response to an incident at our location with the clientel that walk through that door exclusively.
- Fri Oct 08, 2010 1:33 pm
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- Topic: Legal Carry in this situation? (work)
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Legal Carry in this situation? (work)
Basically, i need to know if anyone can point to any case law or other thing that would answer this definitively one way or another:
Facts:
1) Company policy says "an employee will not carry a weapon...". I have never been verbally told not to carry a weapon. IMO Concealed is Concealed and they dont know i have it, i hate the job anyway, sobeit if i get fired i didnt break any laws here.
2) Heres where it gets complicated:
I work for a company (Company A) and we have several buildings but one particular building has 3 physical (and mailing) addresses: 999 Ave A, 989 Ave A, 200 1st Street.
2.1) Company A owns 1/2 the building (999 Ave A) which has a firewall seperating it from internally connecting to any other address in the same building. There are no posted 30.06 signs on any opening to this address. By my understanding, it is legal to carry here.
2.2) A hospital corporation (C Medical) owns 1/2 the building encompasing the addresses 989 Ave A, and 200 1st street. These addresses are linked internally through a locking set of double doors, often kept unsecured. While this is owned by C Medical, Company A performs operations here, the hospital does nothing but rent it out, and provide maintinance. Still not a question. Sorry i'm getting to it.
2.3) the 989 Ave A location has a 30.06 sign inside the primary entrance , you cannot miss it unless you are blind should you walk in this entrance. It meats the legal requirements of a valid 30.06 sign.
3) I work in the 200 1st street side. I enter through one of 2 doors here neither of which are marked with a 30.06 sign. I do not go into the 989 Ave A location either through the internal passage or via the outside door. I do enter the 999 Ave A location regularly.
Am i within my legal right to carry at work?
Does the single side on one entrance prevent me from carrying?
IANAL but...
At a strip mall a 30.06 sign on one business does not prevent me from going in the next door. That said, this is all owned by the same company. If i was ignorant of the sign (because i never walked in that entrance) and came in the building, i would not be in violation because it was not clearly posted for me. But, since i know it is there, does it apply?
Thanks in advance!
Facts:
1) Company policy says "an employee will not carry a weapon...". I have never been verbally told not to carry a weapon. IMO Concealed is Concealed and they dont know i have it, i hate the job anyway, sobeit if i get fired i didnt break any laws here.
2) Heres where it gets complicated:
I work for a company (Company A) and we have several buildings but one particular building has 3 physical (and mailing) addresses: 999 Ave A, 989 Ave A, 200 1st Street.
2.1) Company A owns 1/2 the building (999 Ave A) which has a firewall seperating it from internally connecting to any other address in the same building. There are no posted 30.06 signs on any opening to this address. By my understanding, it is legal to carry here.
2.2) A hospital corporation (C Medical) owns 1/2 the building encompasing the addresses 989 Ave A, and 200 1st street. These addresses are linked internally through a locking set of double doors, often kept unsecured. While this is owned by C Medical, Company A performs operations here, the hospital does nothing but rent it out, and provide maintinance. Still not a question. Sorry i'm getting to it.
2.3) the 989 Ave A location has a 30.06 sign inside the primary entrance , you cannot miss it unless you are blind should you walk in this entrance. It meats the legal requirements of a valid 30.06 sign.
3) I work in the 200 1st street side. I enter through one of 2 doors here neither of which are marked with a 30.06 sign. I do not go into the 989 Ave A location either through the internal passage or via the outside door. I do enter the 999 Ave A location regularly.
Am i within my legal right to carry at work?
Does the single side on one entrance prevent me from carrying?
IANAL but...
At a strip mall a 30.06 sign on one business does not prevent me from going in the next door. That said, this is all owned by the same company. If i was ignorant of the sign (because i never walked in that entrance) and came in the building, i would not be in violation because it was not clearly posted for me. But, since i know it is there, does it apply?
Thanks in advance!