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- Mon Mar 17, 2025 9:55 am
- Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
- Topic: Sig P320 un-commanded discharges
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- Sat Mar 08, 2025 1:57 pm
- Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
- Topic: Sig P320 un-commanded discharges
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Re: Sig P320 un-commanded discharges
At this point SIG's lawyers are just following the 3D's playbook... Delay, Deny, Defend.
They have no good defense to their pistol going off in the holster.
They have no good defense to their pistol going off in the holster.
- Tue Nov 05, 2024 3:02 pm
- Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
- Topic: Sig P320 un-commanded discharges
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The issues I have heard of are on the civilian and LEO side. Cross my fingers that this won't happen to our soldiers.
- Mon Nov 04, 2024 11:08 pm
- Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
- Topic: Sig P320 un-commanded discharges
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Re: Sig P320 un-commanded discharges
More P320's shooting officers in the holster:
2 Texas police officers injured.
The problems these guns are having seems to be in part due to poor quality control in relation to the design of the pistol. DPS heavily tested the P320's they were provided for that purpose with no issues... but that does not mean that all P320's are safe.
2 Texas police officers injured.
The problems these guns are having seems to be in part due to poor quality control in relation to the design of the pistol. DPS heavily tested the P320's they were provided for that purpose with no issues... but that does not mean that all P320's are safe.
- Sun Oct 13, 2024 11:41 am
- Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
- Topic: Sig P320 un-commanded discharges
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Re: Sig P320 un-commanded discharges
Somewhat strange video from a GenZ'er, but it lays out the highlights of the court action against SIG regarding the 320 and additional details about the kind of guy who is current running the company (this company ain't your dad's SIG Sauer):
The summary is that the SIG320 design is flawed, as are the manufacturing processes, possibly leading to un-commanded discharge, most especially when the pistol is in the vertical position (ie holstered). The companies President and CEO is a confirmed criminal: CEO Of U.S. Gun-Maker Faces Jail In Germany
SIG Sauer CEO Avoids Jail Time For Role in Illegal Arms Shipment
The summary is that the SIG320 design is flawed, as are the manufacturing processes, possibly leading to un-commanded discharge, most especially when the pistol is in the vertical position (ie holstered). The companies President and CEO is a confirmed criminal: CEO Of U.S. Gun-Maker Faces Jail In Germany
SIG Sauer CEO Avoids Jail Time For Role in Illegal Arms Shipment
Sadly all this gives the anti-gunners ammunition.Cohen was given an 18-month prison sentence, with all of that time suspended. He was also fined $675,000.
- Mon Dec 05, 2022 9:29 am
- Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
- Topic: Sig P320 un-commanded discharges
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Re: Sig P320 un-commanded discharges
philip964 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 12:36 am https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation ... 90051.html
Apparent lawsuit is proceeding.
That's a whole lot of very serious problems for one pistol.“There have been over 100 incidents (and likely multiples more) of the Sig Sauer unintentionally discharging when the user believed they did not pull the trigger, many of which have caused severe injury to the users and/or bystanders,” the complaint states.
...On one occasion, a Pennsylvania state trooper was killed when another trooper’s Sig Sauer pistol fired without him touching the trigger during a safety training in 2015, the complaint states.
The lawsuit called the pistol the “most dangerous pistol for its users sold in the United States market."
- Sun Nov 06, 2022 12:31 pm
- Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
- Topic: Sig P320 un-commanded discharges
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Re: Sig P320 un-commanded discharges
Another Sig P320 fired on its own in the holster:
- Sat Sep 11, 2021 8:02 pm
- Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
- Topic: Sig P320 un-commanded discharges
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law enforcement officers are suing over a pistol that can fire when you drop it. {JUN 2018}As the gun community started to circulate word of the problem, Sig Sauer announced a “voluntary upgrade” program in August 2017, allowing P320 owners to ship their guns to the company for a free fix to guard against the “rare occurrence” of accidental discharge in a drop. But its website insists that the unrepaired gun “meets and exceeds all US safety standards,” and the company has not issued a recall. ... But more than 500,000 pistols were sold before Sig Sauer acknowledged the problem publicly, according to company statements to several gun trade publications...Three sellers displayed unrepaired guns, yet claimed they had been upgraded. ...“Safety without compromise,” Sig Sauer promotional materials boast. “We’ve designed safety elements into every necessary feature on this pistol. From the trigger, to the striker and even the magazine, the P320 won’t fire unless you want it to.”...During testing on April 20, 2016, the military says it discovered that the Sig Sauer pistol would fire on its own when dropped. The examination used a test version of ammunition, similar to a blank. A recent Department of Defense report describes what happened. “During drop testing in which an empty primed cartridge was inserted, the striker struck the primer causing a discharge,”
Basically SIG lied about not having a problem... To say there is no longer a problem, when they lied about there being a problem in the first place and hundreds of thousands of unrepaired guns are still floating around is something I simply don't trust.
SIG's website still refers to the fix as the P320 Voluntary Upgrade Program

- Sun Aug 29, 2021 2:11 pm
- Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
- Topic: Sig P320 un-commanded discharges
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Re: Sig P320 un-commanded discharges
Commanders have an easy fix... just require soldiers to keep them unloadedThe Annoyed Man wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 12:05 pmI agree that as a general institution, our military is as wasteful as it gets—except for maybe the Marine Corps, which gets everyone else's cast-offs and has done more with less throughout its entire history. But to the point with the Sig M17, these pistols have been issued now for a while, and in some quantity. How many of them "just went off" all by their onesies? I’m guessing none, or it would already be being dissected in Congress, with dems blaming it all on "drumpf" because he’s STILL living rent free in their heads.Paladin wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 9:47 pmThe Annoyed Man wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 5:56 pm Wait……isn’t the M17 basically just a P320 in kaki underwear? If the gun is so dang dangerous, how did it pass military acceptance trials?
How did Universal Camouflage Pattern (UCP) ever pass military acceptance trials?
Why don't military rifles have free-floated barrels?
Big Army does stupid things in Big Ways.
The dirty little secret that anyone who has served knows is that the military is actually one of the worst offenders when it comes to wasting American tax dollars.
No worries, its us paying for all that government waste.![]()
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- Thu Aug 26, 2021 9:47 pm
- Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
- Topic: Sig P320 un-commanded discharges
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Re: Sig P320 un-commanded discharges
How did Universal Camouflage Pattern (UCP) ever pass military acceptance trials?The Annoyed Man wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 5:56 pm Wait……isn’t the M17 basically just a P320 in kaki underwear? If the gun is so dang dangerous, how did it pass military acceptance trials?
Why don't military rifles have free-floated barrels?
Big Army does stupid things in Big Ways.
The dirty little secret that anyone who has served knows is that the military is actually one of the worst offenders when it comes to wasting American tax dollars.
No worries, its us paying for all that government waste.


- Thu Aug 26, 2021 3:33 pm
- Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
- Topic: Sig P320 un-commanded discharges
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Re: Sig P320 un-commanded discharges
That's 2 big mistakes. The Sig P320 AND the Serpa
Both are no no
I know a guy who dropped his P320 once. Once.
He survived, but got rid of the pistol and bought a Glock (I couldn't talk him into an M&P)