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Charles L. Cotton wrote:So few 30.06 signs are actually posted on government property by non-public employees that it's not worth risking passage of the bill to address those few people. Also, if a private security guard actually hangs the 30.06 sign at the direction of a public employee, then that public employee would violate the provisions of this bill.

30.06 signs posted on government property by private persons are not enforceable and they tend to be few in number and of limited duration. Gun shows are great examples. In fact, I can't recall seeing such a sign anywhere other than at a gun show.

Again, the bottom line is the bill would not pass if it extended beyond public employees.

Chas.

RottenApple wrote:

Charles L. Cotton wrote:I guess I don't understand your argument. Government property is controlled by public employees, not private companies. I disagree with your statement that most of the unenforceable signs are posted by private companies operating on public property. The vast majority of signs are posted by government employees on places such as schools, city hall, public libraries, government hospitals, zoos, etc.

If this bill were expanded to cover private persons who post unenforceable signs it wouldn't pass.

Chas.

Charles, I think he's talking about private persons posting 30.06 signs on public property. Take, for example, the gun shows at Dallas Market Hall. It's not a city employee (I'm assuming) that is taping up those huge pieces of paper with the 30.06 wording on it. It's most likely a gun show employee and/or management. So, if I understand him correctly, he's wanting to know if this will prevent situations like this.

Charles L. Cotton wrote:HB507 - Guillen (D, A+) - Creates new offense for rounds going over school property
HB508 - Guillen (D, A+) - Creates Class C offense for public employees posting unenforceable 30.06 signs.

A BILL TO BE ENTITLED

AN ACT
relating to certain laws relating to carrying concealed handguns on
property owned or leased by a governmental entity; creating an
offense.
BE IT ENACTED BY THE LEGISLATURE OF THE STATE OF TEXAS:
SECTION 1. Chapter 30, Penal Code, is amended by adding
Section 30.061 to read as follows:
Sec. 30.061. WRONGFUL EXCLUSION OF CONCEALED HANDGUN
LICENSE HOLDER. (a) In this section:
(1) "License holder" has the meaning assigned by
Section 46.035(f).
(2) "Public employee" means an employee or appointed
officer other than an independent contractor who is paid to perform
services for a state or local governmental entity.
(b) A person commits an offense if the person is a public
employee or a private individual or company operating on government propertywho provides notice under Section 30.06 to a license
holder carrying a handgun under the authority of Subchapter H,
Chapter 411, Government Code, that entering or remaining on a
premises or other place owned or leased by a governmental entity is
prohibited and:
(1) the license holder is not prohibited from carrying
a handgun on the premises or other place by Section 46.03 or Section
46.035; and
(2) the public employeeor a private individual or company operating on government property is reckless as to whether a
license holder is prohibited from carrying a handgun on the
premises or other place.
(c) An offense under this section is a Class C misdemeanor
with a minimum fine of $250. If it is shown on the trial of the
offense that the notice was provided by written communication, each
day of a continuing violation constitutes a separate violation.