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dalto wrote:I have the tipton but I prefer these for general training rounds.

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They are metal cased and do have a little weight to them. They are fairly durable and I payed something like $32 for 50 of them.

Used these for a tactical handgun course and they are awesome. The instructor pretty much insisted on them over any others. We would randomly insert them into the magazine to practice FTF drills and clearing double feeds. They were mixed in with the live rounds and took a beating just fine, no need to baby them.